Rails spinoffs - Aug 2005 - IE and the activeX security warning

I''ve been testing my page, which not only includes my new slider code 
but the drag and drop code as well.   You can see it here:

http://hoover.razorstream.com/preference.htm

My issue is that in IE, I get the annoying security warning across the 
top saying ''IE has restricted this file from showing active content
that
could access your computer''.  If I allow the content then everything 
works fine, but I''m concerned users won''t see it and
won''t allow it and
thus render the page unusable.  I don''t recall seeing javascript
trigger
this in most cases.  Is there some way I can get around this?  

Cheers,
Marty

On 25/08/05, Marty Haught <marty@razorstream.com>
wrote:
> I''ve been testing my page, which not only includes my new slider
code
Nice! Do you think it would be difficult to add ordinal version? That
is, the slider has 5 possible values the user can select, and the
handle will snap to the nearest.
> My issue is that in IE, I get the annoying security warning across the
> top saying ''IE has restricted this file from showing active
content that
> could access your computer''.
I do not get a warning. Maybe you load the page from your hard disk
and not over http?

Bye,
  Martin

Am 25.08.2005 um 19:04 schrieb Martin Bialasinski:
> On 25/08/05, Marty Haught <marty@razorstream.com> wrote:
>
>> I''ve been testing my page, which not only includes my new
slider code
>>
>
> Nice! Do you think it would be difficult to add ordinal version? That
> is, the slider has 5 possible values the user can select, and the
> handle will snap to the nearest.
+1 please do release it :) it''s one of the things on the wish-list :)
>
>> My issue is that in IE, I get the annoying security warning across  
>> the
>> top saying ''IE has restricted this file from showing active  
>> content that
>> could access your computer''.
>>
>
> I do not get a warning. Maybe you load the page from your hard disk
> and not over http?
No warning here either. IE6 on W2K.

Thomas

On Thursday 25 August 2005 18:42, Marty Haught wrote:
> I''ve been testing my page, which not only includes my new slider
code
> but the drag and drop code as well. ? You can see it here:
>
> http://hoover.razorstream.com/preference.htm
Nice :-)
I think this is the first slider implementation I''ve seen that works on
Konqueror. With a glitch, though. After loading the page, all sliders 
have overshot their maximum positions so that they lie next to the 
scale also they are not centered. I''ll send you a screenshot privately.

Michael

-- 
Michael Schuerig                  Failures to use one''s frontal lobes
mailto:michael@schuerig.de        can result in the loss of them.
http://www.schuerig.de/michael/   --William H. Calvin

>Do you think it would be difficult to add ordinal version? That
 >is, the slider has 5 possible values the user can select, and the
 >handle will snap to the nearest.

No, I don''t think it would be too difficult.  You can set a minimum and
maximum value on the slider currently.  These represent the beginning 
and end points on the track and are more important for creating a 
numeric value from the pixels as you slide.  The slider, as it''s 
updated, verifies that the mouse won''t drag it over the maximum or
under
the minimum and if it does, sets the value.  A rounding function (such 
as these five points) could be added fairly easily.  What I''m not clear
on is the best way to inform the slider of these points.  I suppose an 
array from lowest to highest might work.  Any thoughts?

Now, I actually have a case on this page where a slider has a certain 
range but in the particular situation it can only go so far down on the 
range.  So I''ll need to code that in as well. 

The final big piece that I''ll need to do on the actual slider code is
to
allow key strokes to increment the slider.  Such as up, down, home, end, 
etc.  If you peek at the slider code, I started setting them up but
I''ve
got a problem.  The focus only exists when you are dragging the slider 
and it doesn''t seem that while you''re dragging the key strokes
work.
That''s probably okay because who grabs a slider with a mouse click and 
then tries to use the keyboard to move it?  But I might need to make a 
second focus value that is shared among all sliders that would incidate 
which slider was focused on last (after the mouse up event).  That way 
it could get the keystroke commands.  I''m heading into unchartered 
waters here as I''m not sure if that''s how the event code
works.  So if
anyone has any ideas on this, that would be helpful.  I based the slider 
code heavily on the drag and drop stuff.

Cheers,
Marty

Hello,

On 25/08/05, Marty Haught <marty@razorstream.com>
wrote:
>  >Do you think it would be difficult to add ordinal version? That
>  >is, the slider has 5 possible values the user can select, and the
>  >handle will snap to the nearest.
> 
> No, I don''t think it would be too difficult.  [...] What
I''m not clear
> on is the best way to inform the slider of these points.  I suppose an
> array from lowest to highest might work.  Any thoughts?
How about:

* min_number..max_number *
Just as it is now.

* number, number, number, number *
First and last number are min and max, the middle ones define points
at linear interpolated locations. Or we can sort the numbers in any
case, so the passed order does not matter.

* string, string, string, string *
Evenly spread the points on the scale.

Slider length is configurable, no?
> But I might need to make a
> second focus value that is shared among all sliders that would incidate
> which slider was focused on last (after the mouse up event).  That way
> it could get the keystroke commands.
That sounds good. You need to register an event handler on <body> (or
<html>?) to capture the keystrokes. And there need to be a way to
remove the "keyboard focus" from the sliders, as other elements need
to process keystrokes as well (e.g. autocompleter).

And as you also asked: I would pack the code in a seperate file,
inherating from the draggable object. Later, it can be refactored if
needed.

Bye,
Martin

Has anybody solved the issue of using the ActiveX Object to make AJAX calls? 
This is a real issue for some corporations that don''t allow activex
objects
to be installed for security reasons. I have been working on a solution for 
IE that would create a hidden iframe and call a page in the iframe and get 
back the result. I am running into issues getting back the repsonse header, 
not sure if it is even possible to return that information from an iframe. 
Has anybody else come up with a solution to this? Gotta love IE.

-- 
Eric Fleming
efleming@gmail.com
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On 8/31/05, Eric Fleming <efleming@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Has anybody solved the issue of using the ActiveX Object to make AJAX
calls?
>  This is a real issue for some corporations that don''t allow
activex objects
> to be installed for security reasons.  I have been working on a solution
for
> IE that would create a hidden iframe and call a page in the iframe and get
> back the result.  I am running into issues getting back the repsonse
header,
> not sure if it is even possible to return that information from an iframe. 
> Has anybody else come up with a solution to this?  Gotta love IE.
JSRS is a remote scripting solution implemented in javascript.  It''s
totally unrelated to XmlHttpRequest and all that.  This is what I
first used to write "ajax" applications in 2001.  Just thought
I''d
throw this out.  It seems like it''d be better than using an iframe for
remote scripting.

http://www.ashleyit.com/rs/


-- 
rick
http://techno-weenie.net

On Aug 31, 2005, at 3:37 PM, Rick Olson wrote:
> On 8/31/05, Eric Fleming <efleming@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Has anybody solved the issue of using the ActiveX Object to make  
>> AJAX calls?
>>  This is a real issue for some corporations that don''t allow  
>> activex objects
>> to be installed for security reasons.  I have been working on a  
>> solution for
>> IE that would create a hidden iframe and call a page in the iframe  
>> and get
>> back the result.  I am running into issues getting back the  
>> repsonse header,
>> not sure if it is even possible to return that information from an  
>> iframe.
>> Has anybody else come up with a solution to this?  Gotta love IE.
>>
>
> JSRS is a remote scripting solution implemented in javascript. 
It''s
> totally unrelated to XmlHttpRequest and all that.  This is what I
> first used to write "ajax" applications in 2001.  Just thought
I''d
> throw this out.  It seems like it''d be better than using an iframe
for
> remote scripting.
>
> http://www.ashleyit.com/rs/

And on that note, here are some more links to check out, circa 2001:

     http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/wa-resc/

     http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/wa-rich/

I got into MSRS and JSRS "back in the day" and somehow I''ve
managed
to be known as a pioneer in the AJAX-before-it-was-called-AJAX world:

     http://www.ajaxian.com/archives/2005/05/ajax_summit_bre.html  :))

In reality, I''m tinkering with Rails, scriptaculous, and AJAX, but  
not using it hardcore just yet.

     Erik

JSRS just uses iframes, but thanks for that, should be a good addition to my 
ajax methods.

On 8/31/05, Rick Olson <technoweenie@gmail.com>
wrote:
> 
> On 8/31/05, Eric Fleming <efleming@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Has anybody solved the issue of using the ActiveX Object to make AJAX 
> calls?
> > This is a real issue for some corporations that don''t allow
activex
> objects
> > to be installed for security reasons. I have been working on a
solution
> for
> > IE that would create a hidden iframe and call a page in the iframe and
> get
> > back the result. I am running into issues getting back the repsonse 
> header,
> > not sure if it is even possible to return that information from an 
> iframe.
> > Has anybody else come up with a solution to this? Gotta love IE.
> 
> JSRS is a remote scripting solution implemented in javascript.
It''s
> totally unrelated to XmlHttpRequest and all that. This is what I
> first used to write "ajax" applications in 2001. Just thought
I''d
> throw this out. It seems like it''d be better than using an iframe
for
> remote scripting.
> 
> http://www.ashleyit.com/rs/
> 
> 
> --
> rick
> http://techno-weenie.net
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I have the two following issues with Sortable.

1-If two list are created and u drag all the objects
from one list to the second one,u can not drag back
the object in the empty list.

2-The onUpdate function is not triggered when a change
is done within the same list however it''s triggered
when the change affects two lists !

See an example of my current usage..
U can customize the portlet page by moving the portlet
from one column to an other column or within the same
column..

http://www.claudehussenet.com/portal/Welcome2.do

Thx u for your help !



Claude Hussenet
Independent J2EE Architect Consultant
http://claudehussenet.com


		
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On 31 Aug 2005, at 11:04, Claude Hussenet wrote:
> 1-If two list are created and u drag all the objects
> from one list to the second one,u can not drag back
> the object in the empty list.
This stopped me using sortables in a recent CMS project. I had a  
hacky workaround that involved keeping a dummy <li> element that had  
an invisible drag handle, but this was kinda clunky, and I ended up  
abandoning it as deadlines were looming. If this was addressed, I''d  
be a happy man :)

-J

See http://wiki.script.aculo.us/scriptaculous/show/SortableListsDemo  
-- uses SVN trunk code, and the new dropOnEmpty option.

Thomas

Am 01.09.2005 um 00:26 schrieb Jonathan Barrett:
> On 31 Aug 2005, at 11:04, Claude Hussenet wrote:
>
>
>> 1-If two list are created and u drag all the objects
>> from one list to the second one,u can not drag back
>> the object in the empty list.
>>
>
> This stopped me using sortables in a recent CMS project. I had a  
> hacky workaround that involved keeping a dummy <li> element that  
> had an invisible drag handle, but this was kinda clunky, and I  
> ended up abandoning it as deadlines were looming. If this was  
> addressed, I''d be a happy man :)
>
> -J
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>

You should be a happy man then.

The option is
	dropOnEmpty: true

Right?

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[mailto:rails-spinoffs-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan
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Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 5:26 PM
To: rails-spinoffs@lists.rubyonrails.org
Subject: Re: [Rails-spinoffs] 2 issues with Sortable control [Version
1.5-pre3]

On 31 Aug 2005, at 11:04, Claude Hussenet wrote:
> 1-If two list are created and u drag all the objects
> from one list to the second one,u can not drag back
> the object in the empty list.
This stopped me using sortables in a recent CMS project. I had a  
hacky workaround that involved keeping a dummy <li> element that had  
an invisible drag handle, but this was kinda clunky, and I ended up  
abandoning it as deadlines were looming. If this was addressed, I''d  
be a happy man :)

-J
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On 31/08/05, Eric Fleming <efleming@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Has anybody solved the issue of using the ActiveX Object to make AJAX
calls?
>  This is a real issue for some corporations that don''t allow
activex objects
> to be installed for security reasons.  I have been working on a solution
for
> IE that would create a hidden iframe and call a page in the iframe and get
> back the result.
I have a Object, that shows the XMLHttpRequest interface, but uses an
IFrame internally.

It is against the ajaxtoolbox.com code, but it should be really easy
to extract. But it needs help from the server-side (PHP in my case),
it breaks the browser back button (adds the current location to
history on every request), no responseXML.

THe broken back button is the tragic part of it.

Bye,
  Martin

Do a Google search for "deep linking" there is some discussions on
various
ways to control the back forward and bookmark features while using AJAX,
maybe the solution will work for what you are trying to do.

I am a n00b when it comes to javascript so I cannot implement it myself, but
it would be nice to see prototype.js have this functionality integrated.
Many of the cases that cover this say that there is a huge problem with
browser compatibility when using this method a different procedure has to be
written for each browser. I do know backpack has accomplished this in their
code if you want to take a look there.

-----Original Message-----
From: rails-spinoffs-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org
[mailto:rails-spinoffs-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org] On Behalf Of Martin
Bialasinski
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 4:30 PM
To: rails-spinoffs@lists.rubyonrails.org
Subject: Re: [Rails-spinoffs] IE and the activeX security warning

On 31/08/05, Eric Fleming <efleming@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Has anybody solved the issue of using the ActiveX Object to make AJAX
calls?
>  This is a real issue for some corporations that don''t allow
activex
objects
> to be installed for security reasons.  I have been working on a solution
for
> IE that would create a hidden iframe and call a page in the iframe and get
> back the result.
I have a Object, that shows the XMLHttpRequest interface, but uses an
IFrame internally.

It is against the ajaxtoolbox.com code, but it should be really easy
to extract. But it needs help from the server-side (PHP in my case),
it breaks the browser back button (adds the current location to
history on every request), no responseXML.

THe broken back button is the tragic part of it.

Bye,
  Martin
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In regards to my last reply to you if you do figure out the solution with
deep linking, would you mid sharing?

-----Original Message-----
From: rails-spinoffs-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org
[mailto:rails-spinoffs-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org] On Behalf Of Martin
Bialasinski
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 4:30 PM
To: rails-spinoffs@lists.rubyonrails.org
Subject: Re: [Rails-spinoffs] IE and the activeX security warning

On 31/08/05, Eric Fleming <efleming@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Has anybody solved the issue of using the ActiveX Object to make AJAX
calls?
>  This is a real issue for some corporations that don''t allow
activex
objects
> to be installed for security reasons.  I have been working on a solution
for
> IE that would create a hidden iframe and call a page in the iframe and get
> back the result.
I have a Object, that shows the XMLHttpRequest interface, but uses an
IFrame internally.

It is against the ajaxtoolbox.com code, but it should be really easy
to extract. But it needs help from the server-side (PHP in my case),
it breaks the browser back button (adds the current location to
history on every request), no responseXML.

THe broken back button is the tragic part of it.

Bye,
  Martin
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On 07/09/05, Stephen Major <smajor@gmail.com> wrote:
> ways to control the back forward and bookmark features while using AJAX,
You are confusing things. The topic is about using IFrame instead of
XMLHttpRequest to do remote scripting, not about adding to history
after an Ajax call.

Bye,
  Martin