Hello ALL! I am running Fedora 16 x86_64. Due to some dubious problems, that i couldn't resolve, with the TeXLive (2007, which is a default), I removed it. That removed R as well, and some other dependent packages. Then, I installed TeXLive 2011 from CTAN. However, when I wanted to install R, from Fedora's repositories, it asks for some TeX dependencies (for example, tex-preview, texinfo-tex, texlive, texlive-dvips etc.). I know that new TeX is installed in other place (/usr/local/texlive/2011/), than the old, default of the Tex 2007 (/usr/share/texmf/). But, I defined PATH properly: PATH=/usr/local/texlive/2011/bin/x86-64-linux:$PATH Also, I have tried with the symbolic link: ln -s /usr/local/texlive/2011 /usr/share/texmf So, I wonder why R asks for those TeX-packages? Can I tell it where to look? In any case, how to fix this mess? Thanks in advance, Petar
Yes, I tried that alternative repo with F15, but it is quite messy. If you read carefully various posts, then you will realize that the right way is to use CTAN installation, not what is offered under Fedora's umbrella, so to say. TeXLive in Fedora seems to be in a sorrowful state. Best, PM On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 17:07 +0100, Johannes Lips wrote:> Check out this page, it also offers a repo for texlive 2011 on f16. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeXLive > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Petar Milin <pmilin at ff.uns.ac.rs> > wrote: > Hello ALL! > I am running Fedora 16 x86_64. Due to some dubious problems, > that i > couldn't resolve, with the TeXLive (2007, which is a default), > I removed > it. That removed R as well, and some other dependent packages. > Then, I > installed TeXLive 2011 from CTAN. However, when I wanted to > install R, > from Fedora's repositories, it asks for some TeX dependencies > (for > example, tex-preview, texinfo-tex, texlive, texlive-dvips > etc.). > I know that new TeX is installed in other place > (/usr/local/texlive/2011/), than the old, default of the Tex > 2007 > (/usr/share/texmf/). But, I defined PATH properly: > PATH=/usr/local/texlive/2011/bin/x86-64-linux:$PATH > Also, I have tried with the symbolic link: > ln -s /usr/local/texlive/2011 /usr/share/texmf > > So, I wonder why R asks for those TeX-packages? Can I tell it > where to > look? In any case, how to fix this mess? > > Thanks in advance, > Petar > > _______________________________________________ > R-SIG-Fedora mailing list > R-SIG-Fedora at r-project.org > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-fedora >
I did not want to offend anyone, or someone's effort. I wrote that I tried it with F15, which is a time ago. Sorry if I sounded rude! Anyway, it could be that TeXLive 2011 is working better now, but the question remains: R will ask for the dependencies, since TeXLive 2011, even from repositories, will install in different directory, not the '/usr/share/texmf'. What to do with this issue? Thanks! PM On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 17:18 +0100, Johannes Lips wrote:> This repo works totally fine for me for a couple of months now, so I > don't think it's that bad. > And the people working on it trying hard to make the Texlive > experience on fedora better... > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Petar Milin <pmilin at ff.uns.ac.rs> > wrote: > > Yes, I tried that alternative repo with F15, but it is quite > messy. If > you read carefully various posts, then you will realize that > the right > way is to use CTAN installation, not what is offered under > Fedora's > umbrella, so to say. TeXLive in Fedora seems to be in a > sorrowful state. > > Best, > PM > > On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 17:07 +0100, Johannes Lips wrote: > > Check out this page, it also offers a repo for texlive 2011 > on f16. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeXLive > > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Petar Milin > <pmilin at ff.uns.ac.rs> > > wrote: > > Hello ALL! > > I am running Fedora 16 x86_64. Due to some dubious > problems, > > that i > > couldn't resolve, with the TeXLive (2007, which is a > default), > > I removed > > it. That removed R as well, and some other dependent > packages. > > Then, I > > installed TeXLive 2011 from CTAN. However, when I > wanted to > > install R, > > from Fedora's repositories, it asks for some TeX > dependencies > > (for > > example, tex-preview, texinfo-tex, texlive, > texlive-dvips > > etc.). > > I know that new TeX is installed in other place > > (/usr/local/texlive/2011/), than the old, default of > the Tex > > 2007 > > (/usr/share/texmf/). But, I defined PATH properly: > > PATH=/usr/local/texlive/2011/bin/x86-64-linux:$PATH > > Also, I have tried with the symbolic link: > > ln -s /usr/local/texlive/2011 /usr/share/texmf > > > > So, I wonder why R asks for those TeX-packages? Can > I tell it > > where to > > look? In any case, how to fix this mess? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Petar > > > > _______________________________________________ > > R-SIG-Fedora mailing list > > R-SIG-Fedora at r-project.org > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-fedora > > > > > >
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Petar Milin wrote:> Hello ALL! > I am running Fedora 16 x86_64. Due to some dubious problems, that i > couldn't resolve, with the TeXLive (2007, which is a default), I removed > it.ughhh ---- filing a bug with Fedora would be useful as well, so they could address any systemic issues that may exist (we'll look into this later in this email)> That removed R as well, and some other dependent packages.Sadly, implying that 'yum' was used for the removal ... that tool is wayyy' too enthusiastic at removing packages; rpm -e ... is more of a scalpel> Then, I > installed TeXLive 2011 from CTAN. However, when I wanted to install R, > from Fedora's repositories, it asks for some TeX dependencies (for > example, tex-preview, texinfo-tex, texlive, texlive-dvips etc.).Ley me try: on a fresh install of Fedora 16 (64 bit), I ran: [root at vm049244226 ~]# yum install R ... which wanted much TeX goodness ... texlive x86_64 2007-66.fc16 updates 1.6 M texlive-dvips x86_64 2007-66.fc16 updates 192 k texlive-latex x86_64 2007-66.fc16 updates 84 k texlive-texmf noarch 2007-40.fc16 updates 2.8 M texlive-texmf-dvips noarch 2007-40.fc16 updates 238 k texlive-texmf-fonts noarch 2007-40.fc16 updates 48 M texlive-texmf-latex noarch 2007-40.fc16 updates 5.2 M texlive-utils x86_64 2007-66.fc16 updates 251 k ... and R seems to work here: [root at vm049244226 ~]# cat /etc/redhat-release Fedora release 16 (Verne) [root at vm049244226 ~]# R R version 2.15.0 (2012-03-30) Copyright (C) 2012 The R Foundation for Statistical Computing ISBN 3-900051-07-0 Platform: x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu (64-bit) R is free software and comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. You are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions. Type 'license()' or 'licence()' for distribution details. Natural language support but running in an English locale R is a collaborative project with many contributors. Type 'contributors()' for more information and 'citation()' on how to cite R or R packages in publications. Type 'demo()' for some demos, 'help()' for on-line help, or 'help.start()' for an HTML browser interface to help. Type 'q()' to quit R.> example(t.test)t.test> require(graphics) t.test> t.test(1:10,y=c(7:20)) # P = .00001855 Welch Two Sample t-test data: 1:10 and c(7:20) t = -5.4349, df = 21.982, p-value = 1.855e-05 alternative hypothesis: true difference in means is not equal to 0 95 percent confidence interval: -11.052802 -4.947198 sample estimates: mean of x mean of y 5.5 13.5 t.test> t.test(1:10,y=c(7:20, 200)) # P = .1245 -- NOT significant anymore Welch Two Sample t-test data: 1:10 and c(7:20, 200) t = -1.6329, df = 14.165, p-value = 0.1245 alternative hypothesis: true difference in means is not equal to 0 95 percent confidence interval: -47.242900 6.376233 sample estimates: mean of x mean of y 5.50000 25.93333 t.test> ## Classical example: Student's sleep data t.test> plot(extra ~ group, data = sleep) t.test> ## Traditional interface t.test> with(sleep, t.test(extra[group == 1], extra[group == 2])) Welch Two Sample t-test data: extra[group == 1] and extra[group == 2] t = -1.8608, df = 17.776, p-value = 0.07939 alternative hypothesis: true difference in means is not equal to 0 95 percent confidence interval: -3.3654832 0.2054832 sample estimates: mean of x mean of y 0.75 2.33 t.test> ## Formula interface t.test> t.test(extra ~ group, data = sleep) Welch Two Sample t-test data: extra by group t = -1.8608, df = 17.776, p-value = 0.07939 alternative hypothesis: true difference in means is not equal to 0 95 percent confidence interval: -3.3654832 0.2054832 sample estimates: mean in group 1 mean in group 2 0.75 2.33> q()Save workspace image? [y/n/c]: n [root at vm049244226 ~]# ... so it _can_ work under Fedora 16 ...> I know that new TeX is installed in other place > (/usr/local/texlive/2011/), than the old, default of the Tex 2007 > (/usr/share/texmf/). But, I defined PATH properly: > PATH=/usr/local/texlive/2011/bin/x86-64-linux:$PATH > Also, I have tried with the symbolic link: > ln -s /usr/local/texlive/2011 /usr/share/texmf > > So, I wonder why R asks for those TeX-packages? Can I tell it where to > look? In any case, how to fix this mess?The packaging decisions behind R included support for the ability to generate postscript, and documentation; that dragged in all the TeX, in part A clean install of Fedora comes to mind, because mixing packaging systems is inherently 'pot luck' and random in nature, just as mixing tarball hand-compiled matter into a package managed system rarely works well sorry to bear that news ;( -- Russ herrold