R help - May 2024 - Altrep and translations (was " Description of error is untranslated when ....")

Dear Ricardo Villalba,

Thank you for spotting this corner case!

? Mon, 13 May 2024 11:37:57 -0300
Ricardo Villalba <rikivillalba at gmail.com> ?????:
> I track the messages to be coded here:
>
https://github.com/r-devel/r-svn/blob/abe625945c4402cd2bb97b5a64e7469db3e904f0/src/main/altclasses.c#L580
> and here
>
https://github.com/r-devel/r-svn/blob/abe625945c4402cd2bb97b5a64e7469db3e904f0/src/main/seq.c#L102
You may have noticed that one of these places lacks the underscore that
R uses as the translation keyword: it's _(string) that looks up the
translation of the string.

Would you like to suggest a patch on R-devel at r-project.org or
https://bugs.r-project.org ?

-- 
Best regards,
Ivan

>>>>> Ivan Krylov via R-help 
>>>>>     on Tue, 14 May 2024 08:08:58 +0300 writes:
    > Dear Ricardo Villalba, Thank you for spotting this corner
    > case!

    > ? Mon, 13 May 2024 11:37:57 -0300 Ricardo Villalba
    > <rikivillalba at gmail.com> ?????:

    >> I track the messages to be coded here:
    >>
https://github.com/r-devel/r-svn/blob/abe625945c4402cd2bb97b5a64e7469db3e904f0/src/main/altclasses.c#L580
    >> and here
    >>
https://github.com/r-devel/r-svn/blob/abe625945c4402cd2bb97b5a64e7469db3e904f0/src/main/seq.c#L102

    > You may have noticed that one of these places lacks the
    > underscore that R uses as the translation keyword: it's
    > _(string) that looks up the translation of the string.

    > Would you like to suggest a patch on R-devel at r-project.org
    > or https://bugs.r-project.org ?

    > -- 
    > Best regards, Ivan

Thank you, but, well... for such small changes -- that would be
quite a bit of (human, i.e. R-core) overhead, but of course is
generally a good possibility  (but here, wait! .. and read on : )

Actually -- this now gets more  "R-devel" - appropriate --
I notice that there are quite a few  error("..." .. )
and also  warning("..." ..) calls in
src/main/altclasses.c *and* in
src/main/altrep.c        and *none* of them asks for translation;

While this could be for historical reasons (code originally much
by Gabe Becker from outside R-core *and* at first just in a
separate branch before being merged in to the main (r-devel)
branch.
OTOH: There may be good reasons for translations lookup being
brittle in case of altrep error messages .. and hence left off
purposely?

Martin

--
Martin Maechler
ETH Zurich  and  R Core Team