R help - Oct 2020 - [External] Re: unable to access index for repository...

I wonder if you are perhaps trying to solve the wrong problem.

If you like what the older version of the aod package does, but not
the current version,
then I think the solution is to propose an option to the aod
maintainer that would restore your
preferred algorithm into the current version, and then use the current R.

A less good, but possibly workable, option is to compile the old
version of aod into the current R.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 1:45 PM Jeff Newmiller <jdnewmil at
dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>
> All support on this list is voluntary, and support for old versions of R is
not even necessarily on-topic here which is why you keep getting nudged to
upgrade. Your "need" for support for an old version is definitely not
"our" problem, so I suggest you start looking for a consultant if this
issue is that important to you. Such is the nature of volunteer-developed open
source software... so support your local experts.
>
> On October 8, 2020 10:22:54 AM PDT, Steven Yen <styen at ntu.edu.tw>
wrote:
> >Thanks for the help. I have a reason to continue with R-3.0.3. I used
> >maxLik to estimate econometric models and some of them are better
> >handled with R-3.0.3 (but not later)----a sad reality I do not like.
> >
> >Here is what I did. I downloaded
> >
> >https://cran-archive.r-project.org/bin/windows/contrib/3.0/aod_1.3.zip
> >
> >and installed the zip file, which worked in both RStudio and R (without
> >
> >RStudio).
> >
> >In RStudio, I go Tools -> Install packages -> Install from ->
(Choose
> >zip) -> (Browse to the zip file)
> >
> >IN R, I go Packages -> Install packages from local file(s) ->
(Browse
> >to
> >the zip file)...
> >
> >Below is the command line generated and the prompt.
> >
> >> install.packages("C:/Users/USER/Downloads/aod_1.3.zip",
repos = NULL,
> >
> >type = "win.binary")
> >package ?aod? successfully unpacked and MD5 sums checked
> >
> >I will always be able to download the proper .zip file from CRAC
> >Archive, right. So, this will always work for me? Thank you all !! If
> >there are more direct options that work, I would still be interested to
> >
> >know.
> >
> >Steven Yen
> >
> >On 2020/10/9 ?? 12:49, Duncan Murdoch wrote:
> >> Don't choose a mirror.  That will override the repos choice.
> >>
> >> Do update R to a current version if you aren't able to debug
this
> >> yourself.
> >>
> >> Duncan Murdoch
> >>
> >> On 08/10/2020 12:38 p.m., Steven Yen wrote:
> >>> Sorry Gentlemen and all. Now this is becoming a joke (to me).
I
> >repeated
> >>> what I did earlier, with and without the option to set repos
> >suggested
> >>> by Duncan. Now it does not work. I wonder whether it is
dependent on
> >the
> >>> mirror I chose, but I do not remember the one I chose earlier
when
> >it
> >>> work.
> >>>
> >>> I need your help, gentlemen, as I need to use R-3.0.3 for my
task.
> >>>
> >>>   >
options(repos="https://cran-archive.r-project.org")
> >>>   > chooseCRANmirror()
> >>>   > install.packages("aod")
> >>> Warning: unable to access index for repository
> >>> https://cran-archive.r-project.org/bin/windows/contrib/3.0
> >>> Warning: unable to access index for repository
> >>> http://lib.stat.cmu.edu/R/CRAN/bin/windows/contrib/3.0
> >>>
> >>>      package ?aod? is available as a source package but not as
a
> >binary
> >>>
> >>> Warning message:
> >>> package ?aod? is not available (for R version 3.0.3)
> >>>   >
>
>install.packages("aod",repos='https://cran-archive.r-project.org')
> >>> Warning: unable to access index for repository
> >>> https://cran-archive.r-project.org/bin/windows/contrib/3.0
> >>> Warning message:
> >>> package ?aod? is not available (for R version 3.0.3)
> >>>
> >>> On 2020/10/9 ?? 12:02, Duncan Murdoch wrote:
> >>>> Okay, so it's not an RStudio issue. However, I'd
guess setting
> >>>>
> >>>>    options(repos =
"https://cran-archive.r-project.org")
> >>>>
> >>>> at the start of your session could make everything work. 
(I'm
> >>>> guessing you currently have it set to
"http://cran.rstudio.com",
> >which
> >>>> is the source of the last warning below, probably due to
an R bug.
> >>>> But since you're using an obsolete version of R, it
shouldn't
> >surprise
> >>>> you that it has bugs that nobody else is seeing.)
> >>>>
> >>>> Duncan Murdoch
> >>>>
> >>>> On 08/10/2020 11:54 a.m., Steven Yen wrote:
> >>>>> Thanks. You gentlemen please tell me what this means.
In R
> >(outside
> >>>>> of RStudio) I ran:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> install.packages("aod")
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Received a warning (and installation did not seem to
go through).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Then I tried
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
install.packages("aod",repos='https://cran-archive.r-project.org')
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Received a warning but it went on to try
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >https://cran-archive.r-project.org/bin/windows/contrib/3.0/aod_1.3.zip
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and it worked. See log below.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I expect to continue to use R-3.0.3 for a while and I
very much
> >like
> >>>>> this to become a routine. Thank you all.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Steven Yen
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   > install.packages("aod")
> >>>>> Warning in install.packages :
> >>>>>     unable to access index for repository
> >>>>> http://cran.rstudio.com/bin/windows/contrib/3.0
> >>>>> Warning in install.packages :
> >>>>>     unable to access index for repository
> >>>>> http://cran.rstudio.com/bin/windows/contrib/3.0
> >>>>>
> >>>>>      package ?aod? is available as a source package
but not as a
> >>>>> binary
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Warning in install.packages :
> >>>>>     package ?aod? is not available (for R version
3.0.3)
> >>>>>   >
>
>install.packages("aod",repos='https://cran-archive.r-project.org')
> >>>>> Warning in install.packages :
> >>>>>     unable to access index for repository
> >>>>> http://cran.rstudio.com/bin/windows/contrib/3.0
> >>>>> trying URL
> >>>>>
>
>'https://cran-archive.r-project.org/bin/windows/contrib/3.0/aod_1.3.zip'
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Content type 'application/zip' length 225712
bytes (220 Kb)
> >>>>> opened URL
> >>>>> downloaded 220 Kb
> >>>>>
> >>>>> package ?aod? successfully unpacked and MD5 sums
checked
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The downloaded binary packages are in
> >>>>>
C:\Users\USER\AppData\Local\Temp\RtmpY7t6Ll\downloaded_packages
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2020/10/8 ?? 10:52, Duncan Murdoch wrote:
> >>>>>> Just remembered:  RStudio runs its own wrapper
around
> >>>>>> install.packages().  Steven, you should try doing
the install
> >from
> >>>>>> outside of RStudio, and see if it makes a
difference.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Duncan Murdoch
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 08/10/2020 9:59 a.m., Duncan Murdoch wrote:
> >>>>>>> He didn't specify the RStudio repos,
though it's probably
> >implicitly
> >>>>>>> specified in getOption("repos").  I
wonder why
> >install.packages() is
> >>>>>>> looking there, when repos is given explicitly?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 08/10/2020 8:54 a.m., Uwe Ligges wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Drop the RStudio repos.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>> Uwe Ligges
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 05.10.2020 11:10, Steven Yen wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks. I did as suggested but still
received a warning,
> >though
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> installation went through. Anything I
could do to install
> >without
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> warning message.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> What is the contrib.url argument?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>     >
> >>>>>>>>>
>
>install.packages("aod",repos='https://cran-archive.r-project.org')
> >>>>>>>>> Warning in install.packages :
> >>>>>>>>>       unable to access index for
repository
> >>>>>>>>>
http://cran.rstudio.com/bin/windows/contrib/3.0
> >>>>>>>>> trying URL
> >>>>>>>>>
>
>'https://cran-archive.r-project.org/bin/windows/contrib/3.0/aod_1.3.zip'
> >
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Content type 'application/zip'
length 225712 bytes (220 Kb)
> >>>>>>>>> opened URL
> >>>>>>>>> downloaded 220 Kb
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> package ?aod? successfully unpacked
and MD5 sums checked
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The downloaded binary packages are in
> >>>>>>>>>
> >C:\Users\USER\AppData\Local\Temp\Rtmp46p9a3\downloaded_packages
> >>>>>>>>>     >
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 2020/10/5 ?? 04:58, Uwe Ligges
wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Then you'd rather need
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
>
>install.packages("aod",repos='https://cran-archive.r-project.org')
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> or use the contrib.url argument.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>> Uwe Ligges
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 05.10.2020 10:47, Steven Yen
wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the help. I do
update to the latest R-4.0.2. As I
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> said,
> >>>>>>>>>>> for reasons that's hard to
explain, some of my tasks are
> >better
> >>>>>>>>>>> handled with an older version
of R, in this case R-3.0.3.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Please just
> >>>>>>>>>>> help me install packages
successfully with this older
> >version
> >>>>>>>>>>> of R.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I ran the following line but
obviously was not getting it
> >>>>>>>>>>> across.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> ====>
>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>install.packages("aod",repos='https://cran-archive.r-project.org/bin/windows/contrib/3.0/')
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Warning in
> >>>>>>>>>>> install.packages : unable to
access index for repository
> >>>>>>>>>>>
http://cran.rstudio.com/bin/windows/contrib/3.0 Warning in
> >>>>>>>>>>> install.packages : unable to
access index for repository
> >>>>>>>>>>>
>
>https://cran-archive.r-project.org/bin/windows/contrib/3.0/bin/windows/contrib/3.0
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Warning in install.packages :
package ?aod? is not available
> >>>>>>>>>>> (for R
> >>>>>>>>>>> version 3.0.3)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/10/5 ?? 04:12, Uwe
Ligges wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> From
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ../ReadMe
> >>>>>>>>>>>> in the mentioned web
resource:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Packages for R >=
1.7.0 and R < 3.2.0 are available from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
https://cran-archive.r-project.org/bin/windows/contrib/"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> We do not hold binaries of
several year old versions of R
> >on
> >>>>>>>>>>>> CRAN.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Note that R 3.0.0 is 7
years old. You shoudl realy consider
> >to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> update to 4.0.2.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Uwe Ligges
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 05.10.2020 09:56,
Steven Yen wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I had to install/use
an older version of (R-3.0.3) for a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> reason. While
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> installing a package
from CRAN (either in RStudio or R), I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> received
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> following warning
message saying unable to access index
> >for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> repository
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://cran.rstudio.com/bin/windows/contrib/3.0. See
> >message
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> below. In
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> this case, I tried to
install "aod". The install
> >nevertheless
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> went
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> through, as confirmed
by the library statement (I did not
> >try
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to use
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> it). Any idea? Thank
you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ====>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning: unable to
access index for repository
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://cran.rstudio.com/bin/windows/contrib/3.0 Warning:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> unable to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> access index for
repository
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://cran.rstudio.com/bin/windows/contrib/3.0 >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
install.packages("aod") Warning in install.packages :
> >unable
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to access
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> index for repository
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://cran.rstudio.com/bin/windows/contrib/3.0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning in
install.packages : unable to access index for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> repository
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://cran.rstudio.com/bin/windows/contrib/3.0 package
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ?aod? is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> available as a source
package but not as a binary Warning
> >in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> install.packages :
package ?aod? is not available (for R
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> version
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.0.3)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>      > library(aod)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>        [[alternative
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Hmm. You raised an interesting point. Actually I am not having problems with aod
per se?-it is just a supporting package I need while using old R. The essential
package I need, maxLik, simply works better under R-3.0.3, for reason I do not
understand?specifically the numerical gradients of the likelihood function are
not evaluated as accurately in newer versions of R in my experience, which is
why I continue to use R-3.0.3. Because I use this older version of R, naturally
I need to install other supporting packages such as aod and AER.
Certainly, I will install the zip file of the older version of maxLik to the
latest R and see what happens. Thank you.

I will install the new maxLik in old R, and old maxLik in new R, and see what
happens.

Sent from my iPhone
Beware: My autocorrect is crazy
> On Oct 9, 2020, at 2:17 AM, Richard M. Heiberger <rmh at temple.edu>
wrote:
> 
> ?I wonder if you are perhaps trying to solve the wrong problem.
> 
> If you like what the older version of the aod package does, but not
> the current version,
> then I think the solution is to propose an option to the aod
> maintainer that would restore your
> preferred algorithm into the current version, and then use the current R.
> 
> A less good, but possibly workable, option is to compile the old
> version of aod into the current R.
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 1:45 PM Jeff Newmiller <jdnewmil at
dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>> 
>> All support on this list is voluntary, and support for old versions of
R is not even necessarily on-topic here which is why you keep getting nudged to
upgrade. Your "need" for support for an old version is definitely not
"our" problem, so I suggest you start looking for a consultant if this
issue is that important to you. Such is the nature of volunteer-developed open
source software... so support your local experts.
>> 
>>> On October 8, 2020 10:22:54 AM PDT, Steven Yen <styen at
ntu.edu.tw> wrote:
>>> Thanks for the help. I have a reason to continue with R-3.0.3. I
used
>>> maxLik to estimate econometric models and some of them are better
>>> handled with R-3.0.3 (but not later)----a sad reality I do not
like.
>>> 
>>> Here is what I did. I downloaded
>>> 
>>>
https://cran-archive.r-project.org/bin/windows/contrib/3.0/aod_1.3.zip
>>> 
>>> and installed the zip file, which worked in both RStudio and R
(without
>>> 
>>> RStudio).
>>> 
>>> In RStudio, I go Tools -> Install packages -> Install from
-> (Choose
>>> zip) -> (Browse to the zip file)
>>> 
>>> IN R, I go Packages -> Install packages from local file(s) ->
(Browse
>>> to
>>> the zip file)...

Hi Steven

Which optimisation algorithms in maxLik work better under R-3.0.3 than
under the current version of R?

/Arne

On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 at 21:05, Steven Yen <styen at ntu.edu.tw>
wrote:
>
> Hmm. You raised an interesting point. Actually I am not having problems
with aod per se?-it is just a supporting package I need while using old R. The
essential package I need, maxLik, simply works better under R-3.0.3, for reason
I do not understand?specifically the numerical gradients of the likelihood
function are not evaluated as accurately in newer versions of R in my
experience, which is why I continue to use R-3.0.3. Because I use this older
version of R, naturally I need to install other supporting packages such as aod
and AER.
> Certainly, I will install the zip file of the older version of maxLik to
the latest R and see what happens. Thank you.
>
> I will install the new maxLik in old R, and old maxLik in new R, and see
what happens.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Beware: My autocorrect is crazy
>
> > On Oct 9, 2020, at 2:17 AM, Richard M. Heiberger <rmh at
temple.edu> wrote:
> >
> > ?I wonder if you are perhaps trying to solve the wrong problem.
> >
> > If you like what the older version of the aod package does, but not
> > the current version,
> > then I think the solution is to propose an option to the aod
> > maintainer that would restore your
> > preferred algorithm into the current version, and then use the current
R.
> >
> > A less good, but possibly workable, option is to compile the old
> > version of aod into the current R.
> >
> >> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 1:45 PM Jeff Newmiller <jdnewmil at
dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> >>
> >> All support on this list is voluntary, and support for old
versions of R is not even necessarily on-topic here which is why you keep
getting nudged to upgrade. Your "need" for support for an old version
is definitely not "our" problem, so I suggest you start looking for a
consultant if this issue is that important to you. Such is the nature of
volunteer-developed open source software... so support your local experts.
> >>
> >>> On October 8, 2020 10:22:54 AM PDT, Steven Yen <styen at
ntu.edu.tw> wrote:
> >>> Thanks for the help. I have a reason to continue with R-3.0.3.
I used
> >>> maxLik to estimate econometric models and some of them are
better
> >>> handled with R-3.0.3 (but not later)----a sad reality I do not
like.
> >>>
> >>> Here is what I did. I downloaded
> >>>
> >>>
https://cran-archive.r-project.org/bin/windows/contrib/3.0/aod_1.3.zip
> >>>
> >>> and installed the zip file, which worked in both RStudio and R
(without
> >>>
> >>> RStudio).
> >>>
> >>> In RStudio, I go Tools -> Install packages -> Install
from -> (Choose
> >>> zip) -> (Browse to the zip file)
> >>>
> >>> IN R, I go Packages -> Install packages from local file(s)
-> (Browse
> >>> to
> >>> the zip file)...
>
> ______________________________________________
> R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see
> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
> PLEASE do read the posting guide
http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.


-- 
Arne Henningsen
http://www.arne-henningsen.name