R help - Jul 2016 - I can't see my questions and their answers in this mailing list !

Hi Ivan : I can see your answer on the list (but not my question!).
The thing I have done this time is to send my question to both @ r-help at
r-project.org and r-help-bounces at r-project.org

I don't think my previous questions were moderated : they were strictly
about R problems.

Thank Ivan
Jean in France

PS Mais peut-?tre que le chemin de Reims ? Grenoble est plus court !!!!



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Jean,

I got an idea. In the mailing list membership configuration, there is an 
option called " Receive your own posts to the list?". Yours might be 
turned off.

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HTH,
Ivan

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Le 18/07/2016 ? 11:15, MAURICE Jean - externe a ?crit :
> Hi Ivan : I can see your answer on the list (but not my question!).
> The thing I have done this time is to send my question to both @ r-help at
r-project.org and r-help-bounces at r-project.org
>
> I don't think my previous questions were moderated : they were strictly
about R problems.
>
> Thank Ivan
> Jean in France
>
> PS Mais peut-?tre que le chemin de Reims ? Grenoble est plus court !!!!
>
>
>
> Ce message et toutes les pi?ces jointes (ci-apr?s le 'Message')
sont ?tablis ? l'intention exclusive des destinataires et les informations
qui y figurent sont strictement confidentielles. Toute utilisation de ce Message
non conforme ? sa destination, toute diffusion ou toute publication totale ou
partielle, est interdite sauf autorisation expresse.
>
> Si vous n'?tes pas le destinataire de ce Message, il vous est interdit
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partie. Si vous avez re?u ce Message par erreur, merci de le supprimer de votre
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quelque support que ce soit. Nous vous remercions ?galement d'en avertir
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>
> Il est impossible de garantir que les communications par messagerie
?lectronique arrivent en temps utile, sont s?curis?es ou d?nu?es de toute erreur
ou virus.
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> I got an idea. In the mailing list membership configuration, there is an
option
> called " Receive your own posts to the list?". Yours might be
turned off.
(At least) one other issue might be intruding: I found recently that our chosen
email filter had been instructed to use indiscriminate spoofing detection, which
at least by default it does without notification or warning*. I found after a
mystifying absence of own posts that this is recognising _all_ my own posts to
R-help as spoofed emails because of the (perfectly reasonable) policy of showing
the OP's email in the 'from' field. It was unfortunately set to do
so without notification or warning. For this particular filtering product,
whitelisting R-help does not fix the problem - the product ignores the
originating server information when whitelisting. They seem to have forgotten
that legitimate mailing lists exist.

Presumably other email filtering products could be doing the same. 

S Ellison

*To be fair to the product**, an email report is available - if you go to the
relevant web portal and manually request it. Of course, the only reason
you'd do that is if you know that it's needed and where the website is.
You may have to ask your IT staff about that.

**Which I am very happy to identify on an individual basis if you think this
might be your problem.




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