On 12/01/2015 12:00 PM, C W wrote:> I use R on Mac, and I use RStudio on Windows. That's my opinion. > > I have one problem. > > When I use R on Mac. The function plot() gives a graph that's cut off. > > For example, try > > plot(rnorm(100) > > I believe there should be space below "index" on x-axis. > > Why is that? >This may depend on the size of your display. The default window is too big to fit on the display of a small laptop, so it is cut off at the bottom: but the Mac doesn't show it as being cut off, it shows the full border, and cuts off the contents, so it looks a little strange. I'm not sure if this is by intention or a bug; you could ask on the R-sig-mac list if you really care. When you resize the window the OS realizes that you really want to see the whole thing, and it shrinks it. You can probably use quartz.options() to change the default size and avoid the above problem. Duncan Murdoch> Thanks, > > Mike > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Fraser D. Neiman <fneiman at monticello.org> > wrote: > >> >> In my experience, another negative to RStudio is its performance when >> trying to access code or data files on a remote server over a VPN >> connection -- even modest files can take minutes to load and sometimes >> crash the session. >> >> The native R GUI seems to handle this better and I often am forced to use >> it when working remotely. But there is enough other good stuff in RStudio >> to make this a bummer. >> >> >> >> >> Fraser >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Duncan Murdoch [mailto:murdoch.duncan at gmail.com] >> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 5:31 AM >> To: Boris Steipe; R mailing list >> Subject: Re: [R] R vs. RStudio? >> >> On 10/01/2015 9:22 PM, Boris Steipe wrote: >>> Could someone kindly enlighten me whether there are currently advantages >> to use R Studio vs. the normal R GUI? On the Mac I can't seem to find >> anything compelling, on Windows (which I don't use myself) I noticed last >> year that there seems to be no syntax highlighting available for the R GUI >> but R Studio had it. >>> >>> Surely there must be some value proposition in that project, what am I >> missing? >> >> I find several advantages, and one or two disadvantages. >> >> - The debugger is nicer. You can set breakpoints in the code editor and >> it installs them in the right place. >> >> - It has lots of support for things like Sweave, knitr, rmarkdown, etc. >> >> - It is easy to switch between different projects. >> >> - It looks the same on all platforms, so if you switch platforms you >> still know what you're doing. >> >> Negatives: >> >> - I don't like the tiled display. I find it doesn't give me enough space. >> >> - At least until recently, I haven't checked with the latest release, it >> converts files to the native format, i.e. saving a file on Windows gives >> you CR LF line endings, doing it elsewhere converts them to LF. >> This is really irritating when files get changed for no good reason. >> >> Duncan Murdoch >> >> ______________________________________________ >> R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >> PLEASE do read the posting guide >> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >> >> ______________________________________________ >> R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >> PLEASE do read the posting guide >> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >> > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > ______________________________________________ > R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >
I have this in my .Rprofile
setHook(packageEvent("grDevices", "onLoad"),
function(...) grDevices::quartz.options(height=6.7))
## for the MacBook Air, the default height=7 puts the legend below the
bottom of the screen
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Duncan Murdoch
<murdoch.duncan at gmail.com> wrote:> On 12/01/2015 12:00 PM, C W wrote:
>> I use R on Mac, and I use RStudio on Windows. That's my opinion.
>>
>> I have one problem.
>>
>> When I use R on Mac. The function plot() gives a graph that's cut
off.
>>
>> For example, try
>>
>> plot(rnorm(100)
>>
>> I believe there should be space below "index" on x-axis.
>>
>> Why is that?
>>
>
> This may depend on the size of your display. The default window is too
> big to fit on the display of a small laptop, so it is cut off at the
> bottom: but the Mac doesn't show it as being cut off, it shows the
full
> border, and cuts off the contents, so it looks a little strange. I'm
> not sure if this is by intention or a bug; you could ask on the
> R-sig-mac list if you really care. When you resize the window the OS
> realizes that you really want to see the whole thing, and it shrinks it.
>
> You can probably use quartz.options() to change the default size and
> avoid the above problem.
>
> Duncan Murdoch
>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Fraser D. Neiman <fneiman at
monticello.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> In my experience, another negative to RStudio is its performance
when
>>> trying to access code or data files on a remote server over a VPN
>>> connection -- even modest files can take minutes to load and
sometimes
>>> crash the session.
>>>
>>> The native R GUI seems to handle this better and I often am forced
to use
>>> it when working remotely. But there is enough other good stuff in
RStudio
>>> to make this a bummer.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Fraser
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Duncan Murdoch [mailto:murdoch.duncan at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 5:31 AM
>>> To: Boris Steipe; R mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [R] R vs. RStudio?
>>>
>>> On 10/01/2015 9:22 PM, Boris Steipe wrote:
>>>> Could someone kindly enlighten me whether there are currently
advantages
>>> to use R Studio vs. the normal R GUI? On the Mac I can't seem
to find
>>> anything compelling, on Windows (which I don't use myself) I
noticed last
>>> year that there seems to be no syntax highlighting available for
the R GUI
>>> but R Studio had it.
>>>>
>>>> Surely there must be some value proposition in that project,
what am I
>>> missing?
>>>
>>> I find several advantages, and one or two disadvantages.
>>>
>>> - The debugger is nicer. You can set breakpoints in the code
editor and
>>> it installs them in the right place.
>>>
>>> - It has lots of support for things like Sweave, knitr, rmarkdown,
etc.
>>>
>>> - It is easy to switch between different projects.
>>>
>>> - It looks the same on all platforms, so if you switch platforms
you
>>> still know what you're doing.
>>>
>>> Negatives:
>>>
>>> - I don't like the tiled display. I find it doesn't give
me enough space.
>>>
>>> - At least until recently, I haven't checked with the latest
release, it
>>> converts files to the native format, i.e. saving a file on Windows
gives
>>> you CR LF line endings, doing it elsewhere converts them to LF.
>>> This is really irritating when files get changed for no good
reason.
>>>
>>> Duncan Murdoch
>>>
>>> ______________________________________________
>>> R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more,
see
>>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
>>> PLEASE do read the posting guide
>>> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
>>> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
>>>
>>> ______________________________________________
>>> R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more,
see
>>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
>>> PLEASE do read the posting guide
>>> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
>>> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
>>>
>>
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>>
>> ______________________________________________
>> R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see
>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
>> PLEASE do read the posting guide
http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
>> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
>>
>
> ______________________________________________
> R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see
> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
> PLEASE do read the posting guide
http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Thanks, Duncan and Richard. This graphing being cut off problem is very subtle, I can live with it. It is usually the white spaces that's cut off. Thanks for addressing this. Please continue with your original discussion, didn't mean to divert your attention. On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Richard M. Heiberger <rmh at temple.edu> wrote:> I have this in my .Rprofile > > setHook(packageEvent("grDevices", "onLoad"), > function(...) grDevices::quartz.options(height=6.7)) > ## for the MacBook Air, the default height=7 puts the legend below the > bottom of the screen > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Duncan Murdoch > <murdoch.duncan at gmail.com> wrote: > > On 12/01/2015 12:00 PM, C W wrote: > >> I use R on Mac, and I use RStudio on Windows. That's my opinion. > >> > >> I have one problem. > >> > >> When I use R on Mac. The function plot() gives a graph that's cut off. > >> > >> For example, try > >> > >> plot(rnorm(100) > >> > >> I believe there should be space below "index" on x-axis. > >> > >> Why is that? > >> > > > > This may depend on the size of your display. The default window is too > > big to fit on the display of a small laptop, so it is cut off at the > > bottom: but the Mac doesn't show it as being cut off, it shows the full > > border, and cuts off the contents, so it looks a little strange. I'm > > not sure if this is by intention or a bug; you could ask on the > > R-sig-mac list if you really care. When you resize the window the OS > > realizes that you really want to see the whole thing, and it shrinks it. > > > > You can probably use quartz.options() to change the default size and > > avoid the above problem. > > > > Duncan Murdoch > > > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Mike > >> > >> On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Fraser D. Neiman < > fneiman at monticello.org> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> In my experience, another negative to RStudio is its performance when > >>> trying to access code or data files on a remote server over a VPN > >>> connection -- even modest files can take minutes to load and sometimes > >>> crash the session. > >>> > >>> The native R GUI seems to handle this better and I often am forced to > use > >>> it when working remotely. But there is enough other good stuff in > RStudio > >>> to make this a bummer. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Fraser > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Duncan Murdoch [mailto:murdoch.duncan at gmail.com] > >>> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 5:31 AM > >>> To: Boris Steipe; R mailing list > >>> Subject: Re: [R] R vs. RStudio? > >>> > >>> On 10/01/2015 9:22 PM, Boris Steipe wrote: > >>>> Could someone kindly enlighten me whether there are currently > advantages > >>> to use R Studio vs. the normal R GUI? On the Mac I can't seem to find > >>> anything compelling, on Windows (which I don't use myself) I noticed > last > >>> year that there seems to be no syntax highlighting available for the R > GUI > >>> but R Studio had it. > >>>> > >>>> Surely there must be some value proposition in that project, what am I > >>> missing? > >>> > >>> I find several advantages, and one or two disadvantages. > >>> > >>> - The debugger is nicer. You can set breakpoints in the code editor > and > >>> it installs them in the right place. > >>> > >>> - It has lots of support for things like Sweave, knitr, rmarkdown, > etc. > >>> > >>> - It is easy to switch between different projects. > >>> > >>> - It looks the same on all platforms, so if you switch platforms you > >>> still know what you're doing. > >>> > >>> Negatives: > >>> > >>> - I don't like the tiled display. I find it doesn't give me enough > space. > >>> > >>> - At least until recently, I haven't checked with the latest release, > it > >>> converts files to the native format, i.e. saving a file on Windows > gives > >>> you CR LF line endings, doing it elsewhere converts them to LF. > >>> This is really irritating when files get changed for no good reason. > >>> > >>> Duncan Murdoch > >>> > >>> ______________________________________________ > >>> R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > >>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > >>> PLEASE do read the posting guide > >>> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > >>> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > >>> > >>> ______________________________________________ > >>> R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > >>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > >>> PLEASE do read the posting guide > >>> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > >>> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > >>> > >> > >> [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > >> > >> ______________________________________________ > >> R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > >> PLEASE do read the posting guide > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > >> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > >> > > > > ______________________________________________ > > R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > > PLEASE do read the posting guide > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >[[alternative HTML version deleted]]