> On 11 Jan 2015, at 11:30 , Duncan Murdoch <murdoch.duncan at gmail.com> wrote: > > > - I don't like the tiled display. I find it doesn't give me enough space. >This is a mixed blessing. For teaching purposes, it helps avoid shuffling windows to uncover the editor, graph window, and terminal in order to demonstrate various points. (One can fairly quickly get used to do that for one's own purposes, but in the classroom it becomes "noise on the line".) However, the graph tile rather too easily get into the "Figure margins too large" issue and readability of the text tiles can become a problem. -- Peter Dalgaard, Professor, Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark Phone: (+45)38153501 Email: pd.mes at cbs.dk Priv: PDalgd at gmail.com
If you have two screens the "zoom" plot window can fill the second
screen. Some laptops can handle a second external screen if you use a docking
station.
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On January 12, 2015 12:01:12 AM PST, peter dalgaard <pdalgd at gmail.com>
wrote:>
>> On 11 Jan 2015, at 11:30 , Duncan Murdoch <murdoch.duncan at
gmail.com>
>wrote:
>>
>>
>> - I don't like the tiled display. I find it doesn't give me
enough
>space.
>>
>
>This is a mixed blessing. For teaching purposes, it helps avoid
>shuffling windows to uncover the editor, graph window, and terminal in
>order to demonstrate various points.
>(One can fairly quickly get used to do that for one's own purposes, but
>in the classroom it becomes "noise on the line".) However, the
graph
>tile rather too easily get into the "Figure margins too large"
issue
>and readability of the text tiles can become a problem.
On 12 Jan 2015, at 09:28 , Jeff Newmiller <jdnewmil at dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:> If you have two screens the "zoom" plot window can fill the second screen. Some laptops can handle a second external screen if you use a docking station.Unfortunately, such luxury is not available in the classroom. All too often, the projector setup is calibrated to display 3-bullet PowerPoint presentations... -- Peter Dalgaard, Professor, Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark Phone: (+45)38153501 Email: pd.mes at cbs.dk Priv: PDalgd at gmail.com
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 2:01 AM, peter dalgaard <pdalgd at gmail.com> wrote:> >> On 11 Jan 2015, at 11:30 , Duncan Murdoch <murdoch.duncan at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> - I don't like the tiled display. I find it doesn't give me enough space. >> > > This is a mixed blessing. For teaching purposes, it helps avoid shuffling windows to uncover the editor, graph window, and terminal in order to demonstrate various points. > (One can fairly quickly get used to do that for one's own purposes, but in the classroom it becomes "noise on the line".) However, the graph tile rather too easily get into the "Figure margins too large" issue and readability of the text tiles can become a problem.I used to really dislike the tiling, but now I'm mostly ok with it (especially once I realised RStudio is designed to be used fullscreen). It's certainly a huge improvement for new users, since they never lose windows behind other windows, and the same type of thing always appears in the same place. OTOH if the projector isn't particularly good or the room is large, and you've cranked up the size so everyone can read it, it can be hard to fit everything on one screen. Hadley -- http://had.co.nz/
On 12.01.2015 09:01, peter dalgaard wrote:> >> On 11 Jan 2015, at 11:30 , Duncan Murdoch <murdoch.duncan at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> - I don't like the tiled display. I find it doesn't give me enough space. >> > > This is a mixed blessing. For teaching purposes, it helps avoid shuffling windows to uncover the editor, graph window, and terminal in order to demonstrate various points. > (One can fairly quickly get used to do that for one's own purposes, but in the classroom it becomes "noise on the line".) However, the graph tile rather too easily get into the "Figure margins too large" issue and readability of the text tiles can become a problem. >For teaching purposes (Windows computers) I do not even introduce the R GUI, I only use R Studio. I like the compact the view of the editor, command line window, variables and graphics. Additionally it is available for all OS's (Mac, Linux, Windows). But a real pain in the editor is its cleverness about opening and closing brackets, apostrophs and double apostrophs. Very often I when run the program block/line there are too much or too few brackets, apostrophs or double apostrophs :( Best Sigbert