Could someone kindly enlighten me whether there are currently advantages to use R Studio vs. the normal R GUI? On the Mac I can't seem to find anything compelling, on Windows (which I don't use myself) I noticed last year that there seems to be no syntax highlighting available for the R GUI but R Studio had it. Surely there must be some value proposition in that project, what am I missing? Thanks, Boris
That is what websites are for. Go to rstudio.com and make your own judgment . I have found that they provide much useful functionality above and beyond R's bare bones GUI. Bert On Saturday, January 10, 2015, Boris Steipe <boris.steipe at utoronto.ca> wrote:> Could someone kindly enlighten me whether there are currently advantages > to use R Studio vs. the normal R GUI? On the Mac I can't seem to find > anything compelling, on Windows (which I don't use myself) I noticed last > year that there seems to be no syntax highlighting available for the R GUI > but R Studio had it. > > Surely there must be some value proposition in that project, what am I > missing? > > Thanks, > Boris > ______________________________________________ > R-help at r-project.org <javascript:;> mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and > more, see > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >-- Bert Gunter Genentech Nonclinical Biostatistics (650) 467-7374 "Data is not information. Information is not knowledge. And knowledge is certainly not wisdom." Clifford Stoll [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
I urge you to try it. John John David Sorkin M.D., Ph.D. Professor of Medicine Chief, Biostatistics and Informatics University of Maryland School of Medicine Division of Gerontology and Geriatric Medicine Baltimore VA Medical Center 10 North Greene Street GRECC (BT/18/GR) Baltimore, MD 21201-1524 (Phone) 410-605-7119 (Fax) 410-605-7913 (Please call phone number above prior to faxing)>>> Bert Gunter <gunter.berton at gene.com> 1/10/2015 9:46 PM >>>That is what websites are for. Go to rstudio.com and make your own judgment . I have found that they provide much useful functionality above and beyond R's bare bones GUI. Bert On Saturday, January 10, 2015, Boris Steipe <boris.steipe at utoronto.ca> wrote:> Could someone kindly enlighten me whether there are currently advantages > to use R Studio vs. the normal R GUI? On the Mac I can't seem to find > anything compelling, on Windows (which I don't use myself) I noticed last > year that there seems to be no syntax highlighting available for the R GUI > but R Studio had it. > > Surely there must be some value proposition in that project, what am I > missing? > > Thanks, > Boris > ______________________________________________ > R-help at r-project.org <javascript:;> mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and > more, see > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >-- Bert Gunter Genentech Nonclinical Biostatistics (650) 467-7374 "Data is not information. Information is not knowledge. And knowledge is certainly not wisdom." Clifford Stoll [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. Confidentiality Statement: This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.
On 10/01/2015 9:22 PM, Boris Steipe wrote:> Could someone kindly enlighten me whether there are currently advantages to use R Studio vs. the normal R GUI? On the Mac I can't seem to find anything compelling, on Windows (which I don't use myself) I noticed last year that there seems to be no syntax highlighting available for the R GUI but R Studio had it. > > Surely there must be some value proposition in that project, what am I missing?I find several advantages, and one or two disadvantages. - The debugger is nicer. You can set breakpoints in the code editor and it installs them in the right place. - It has lots of support for things like Sweave, knitr, rmarkdown, etc. - It is easy to switch between different projects. - It looks the same on all platforms, so if you switch platforms you still know what you're doing. Negatives: - I don't like the tiled display. I find it doesn't give me enough space. - At least until recently, I haven't checked with the latest release, it converts files to the native format, i.e. saving a file on Windows gives you CR LF line endings, doing it elsewhere converts them to LF. This is really irritating when files get changed for no good reason. Duncan Murdoch
On Sat, 10 Jan 2015 21:22:56 -0500 Boris Steipe <boris.steipe at utoronto.ca> wrote:> Could someone kindly enlighten me whether there are currently > advantages to use R Studio vs. the normal R GUI? On the Mac I can't > seem to find anything compelling, on Windows (which I don't use > myself) I noticed last year that there seems to be no syntax > highlighting available for the R GUI but R Studio had it. > > Surely there must be some value proposition in that project, what am > I missing? > > Thanks, > BorisThere are pros and cons as with all things. RStudio in so far R itself is concerned is effectively simply a graphic interface for the terminal. You operate R from within RStudio essentially the same as you would from a terminal. Useful traits include a streamlined means of installing new packages without trolling through CRAN, quick displays of data sets and other objects currently in the work environment, and a very handy way to build scripts for an analysis. Commands can be run from the Console window and copied to an *.R script which can then be fine tuned to produce analytical, tabular and graphical output to files that is readily incorporated into a comprehensive analysis and report. Graphics - plots - are created and buffered in sequence and can be saved from the plot window as image files or pdfs without adding device() lines to the script. A nice addition would be an output window similar to the plot window. As it is, I still use sink() to capture output of tables and analytical results. RStudio does have some highlighting. The biggest gotcha is that R is not precisely the same experience under different environments (e.g. linux vs. windows). RStudio is more consistent across platforms. RStudio is not an environment like RKward or JGR where analytical tools are available through a menu. jwdougherty
> On 11 Jan 2015, at 11:30 , Duncan Murdoch <murdoch.duncan at gmail.com> wrote: > > > - I don't like the tiled display. I find it doesn't give me enough space. >This is a mixed blessing. For teaching purposes, it helps avoid shuffling windows to uncover the editor, graph window, and terminal in order to demonstrate various points. (One can fairly quickly get used to do that for one's own purposes, but in the classroom it becomes "noise on the line".) However, the graph tile rather too easily get into the "Figure margins too large" issue and readability of the text tiles can become a problem. -- Peter Dalgaard, Professor, Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark Phone: (+45)38153501 Email: pd.mes at cbs.dk Priv: PDalgd at gmail.com
In my experience, another negative to RStudio is its performance when trying to access code or data files on a remote server over a VPN connection -- even modest files can take minutes to load and sometimes crash the session. The native R GUI seems to handle this better and I often am forced to use it when working remotely. But there is enough other good stuff in RStudio to make this a bummer. Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Murdoch [mailto:murdoch.duncan at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 5:31 AM To: Boris Steipe; R mailing list Subject: Re: [R] R vs. RStudio? On 10/01/2015 9:22 PM, Boris Steipe wrote:> Could someone kindly enlighten me whether there are currently advantages to use R Studio vs. the normal R GUI? On the Mac I can't seem to find anything compelling, on Windows (which I don't use myself) I noticed last year that there seems to be no syntax highlighting available for the R GUI but R Studio had it. > > Surely there must be some value proposition in that project, what am I missing?I find several advantages, and one or two disadvantages. - The debugger is nicer. You can set breakpoints in the code editor and it installs them in the right place. - It has lots of support for things like Sweave, knitr, rmarkdown, etc. - It is easy to switch between different projects. - It looks the same on all platforms, so if you switch platforms you still know what you're doing. Negatives: - I don't like the tiled display. I find it doesn't give me enough space. - At least until recently, I haven't checked with the latest release, it converts files to the native format, i.e. saving a file on Windows gives you CR LF line endings, doing it elsewhere converts them to LF. This is really irritating when files get changed for no good reason. Duncan Murdoch ______________________________________________ R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.