Hi all, I am interested in modeling total fish catch using gam in mgcv to model simple random effects for individual vessels (that make repeated trips over time in the fishery). I have 98 subjects, so I thought I would use gam instead of gamm to model the random effects. My model is: modelGOM <- gam(TotalFish ~ factor(SetYear) + factor(SetMonth) + factor(TimePeriod) + s(SST) + s(VesselID, bs = "re", by = dum) + s(Distance, by = TimePeriod) + offset(log(HooksSet)), data = GOM, family = tw(), method = "REML") I have coded the random effect with bs = "re" and by = dum (which should allow me to predict with the vessel effects at their predicted values or zero), where "dum" is a vector of 1. The model runs, but I am having problems predicting. grid.bin.GOM_A_Swordfish <- data.frame("Distance"=seq(min(GOM$Distance),max(GOM$Distance),length = 100),#range of distances over which to predict "SetYear" = '2006', "SetMonth" = '6', "TimePeriod" = 'A', "SST" = mean(GOM$SST), "VesselID" = 'MEDIHO', #I picked one of the levels of the random effect, Vessel MEDIHO "dum" = '0', #to predict without vessel effect "HooksSet" = mean(GOM$HooksSet)) pred_GOM_A_Swordfish <- predict(modelGOM, grid.bin.GOM_A_Swordfish, type = "response", se = T) The error that I'm getting is: Error in Predict.matrix.tprs.smooth(object, dk$data) : NA/NaN/Inf in foreign function call (arg 1) In addition: Warning message: In Ops.factor(xx, object$shift[i]) : - not meaningful for factors I think this is being called because VesselID is a factor, but I'm using it a smooth for the random effects. Can you provide any advice on how to predict this model without the VesselID term (but still include it in fitting)? Thanks! Meagan