>>>>> Duncan Murdoch writes:With c76695 in the trunk, we now only tilde expand file names starting with a tilde also when using readline. Best -k> On 11/06/2019 4:34 p.m., William Dunlap via R-devel wrote: >> Note that R treats tildes in file names differently on Windows and Linux. >> On Windows, it is only replaced if it it at the beginning of the line and >> is followed by a forward or backward slash or end-of-line. On Linux it is >> replaced no matter where it is in the text and ~someUser will be replaced >> by someUser's home directory (if 'someUser' is a user with a home >> directory).> That's not quite true: On Linux the bug is in the code that uses > libreadline, which you don't have to use. If you just specify > "--no-readline" when you start R, it will be fine on Linux, as far as I > can see.> I wouldn't choose that as the default way to run R (it's pretty > irritating not to have readline support), but it is a workaround for > this bug.> Duncan Murdoch>> >> Hence, if you have a Windows machine that can look at the file system on >> your Linux machine you can use file.rename on Windows to change the names. >> My inclination would be to use a bash script on Linux to change the names, >> but if you are not comfortable with bash try the Windows approach. >> >> Bill Dunlap >> TIBCO Software >> wdunlap tibco.com >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 1:13 PM Frank Schwidom <schwidom at gmx.net> wrote: >> >>> Hi Gabriel, >>> >>> I actually want to make renames over thousands of files. But if I am not >>> able to express the source filename of the rename operation I will not be >>> able to get the work done. Besides the fact that there are issues I think >>> that R is qualified for solving my problem by the method how it can handle >>> long vectors of strings, booleans and also lists. >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> Frank >>> >>> On 2019-06-11 09:49:17, Gabriel Becker wrote: >>>> Hi Frank, >>>> I'm hesitant to be "that guy", but in case no one else has brought >>> this up >>>> to you, having files with a tilde in their names (generally but >>> especially >>>> on a linux system, where ~ in file names has a very important special >>>> meaning in some cases, as we know) strikes me as an exceptionally bad >>>> practice anyway. In light of that, the solution with the smallest >>> amount >>>> of pain for you is almost surely to just... not do that. Your >>> filenames >>>> will be better for it anyway. >>>> There is a reason no one has complained about this before, and while I >>>> haven't run a study or anything, I strongly suspect its that >>> "everyone" >>>> else is already on the "no tildes in filenames" bandwagon, so this >>>> behavior, even if technically a bug, has no ability to cause them >>>> problems. >>>> Best, >>>> ~G >>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Frank Schwidom <[1]schwidom at gmx.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> yes, I have seen this package and it has the same tilde expanding >>>> problem. >>>> >>>> Please excuse me I will cc this answer to r-help and r-devel to >>> keep the >>>> discussion running. >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> Frank Schwidom >>>> >>>> On 2019-06-11 09:12:36, G?bor Cs?rdi wrote: >>>> > Just in case, have you seen the fs package? >>>> > [2]https://fs.r-lib.org/ >>>> > >>>> > Gabor >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 7:51 AM Frank Schwidom <[3] >>> schwidom at gmx.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > > Hi, >>>> > > >>>> > > to get rid of any possible filename modification I started a >>> little >>>> project to cover my usecase: >>>> > > >>>> > > [4]https://github.com/schwidom/simplefs >>>> > > >>>> > > This is my first R package, suggestions and a review are >>> welcome. >>>> > > >>>> > > Thanks in advance >>>> > > Frank Schwidom >>>> > > >>>> > > On 2019-06-07 09:04:06, Richard O'Keefe wrote: >>>> > > > How can expanding tildes anywhere but the beginning of a >>> file >>>> name NOT be >>>> > > > considered a bug? >>>> > > > On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 23:04, Ivan Krylov >>>> <[1][5]krylov.r00t at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > > > >>>> > > > On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 18:07:15 +0200 >>>> > > > Frank Schwidom <[2][6]schwidom at gmx.net> wrote: >>>> > > > >>>> > > > > +> path.expand("a ~ b") >>>> > > > > [1] "a /home/user b" >>>> > > > >>>> > > > > How can I switch off any file crippling activity? >>>> > > > >>>> > > > It doesn't seem to be possible if readline is enabled and >>>> works >>>> > > > correctly. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > Calls to path.expand [1] end up [2] in R_ExpandFileName >>> [3], >>>> which >>>> > > > calls R_ExpandFileName_readline [4], which uses >>> libreadline >>>> function >>>> > > > tilde_expand [5]. tilde_expand seems to be designed to >>> expand >>>> '~' >>>> > > > anywhere in the string it is handed, i.e. operate on >>> whole >>>> command >>>> > > > lines, not file paths. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > I am taking the liberty of Cc-ing R-devel in case this >>> can be >>>> > > > considered a bug. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > -- >>>> > > > Best regards, >>>> > > > Ivan >>>> > > > >>>> > > > [1] >>>> > > > >>>> [3][7] >>> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/names.c#L807 >>>> > > > >>>> > > > [2] >>>> > > > >>>> [4][8] >>> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/platform.c#L1915 >>>> > > > >>>> > > > [3] >>>> > > > >>>> [5][9] >>> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-unix.c#L147 >>>> > > > >>>> > > > [4] >>>> > > > >>>> [6][10] >>> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-std.c#L494 >>>> > > > >>>> > > > [5] >>>> > > > >>>> [7][11] >>> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/readline.git/tree/tilde.c?h=devel#n187 >>>> > > > >>>> > > > ______________________________________________ >>>> > > > [8][12]R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To >>> UNSUBSCRIBE >>>> and more, see >>>> > > > [9][13]https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >>>> > > > PLEASE do read the posting guide >>>> > > > [10][14]http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >>>> > > > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, >>> reproducible >>>> code. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > References >>>> > > > >>>> > > > Visible links >>>> > > > 1. mailto:[15]krylov.r00t at gmail.com >>>> > > > 2. mailto:[16]schwidom at gmx.net >>>> > > > 3. >>>> [17] >>> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/names.c#L807 >>>> > > > 4. >>>> [18] >>> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/platform.c#L1915 >>>> > > > 5. >>>> [19] >>> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-unix.c#L147 >>>> > > > 6. >>>> [20] >>> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-std.c#L494 >>>> > > > 7. >>>> [21] >>> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/readline.git/tree/tilde.c?h=devel#n187 >>>> > > > 8. mailto:[22]R-help at r-project.org >>>> > > > 9. [23]https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >>>> > > > 10. [24]http://www.r-project.org/posting-guide.html >>>> > > >>>> > > ______________________________________________ >>>> > > [25]R-devel at r-project.org mailing list >>>> > > [26]https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel >>>> > >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________ >>>> [27]R-devel at r-project.org mailing list >>>> [28]https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel >>>> >>>> References >>>> >>>> Visible links >>>> 1. mailto:schwidom at gmx.net >>>> 2. https://fs.r-lib.org/ >>>> 3. mailto:schwidom at gmx.net >>>> 4. https://github.com/schwidom/simplefs >>>> 5. mailto:krylov.r00t at gmail.com >>>> 6. mailto:schwidom at gmx.net >>>> 7. >>> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/names.c#L807 >>>> 8. >>> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/platform.c#L1915 >>>> 9. >>> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-unix.c#L147 >>>> 10. >>> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-std.c#L494 >>>> 11. >>> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/readline.git/tree/tilde.c?h=devel#n187 >>>> 12. mailto:R-help at r-project.org >>>> 13. https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >>>> 14. http://www.r-project.org/posting-guide.html >>>> 15. mailto:krylov.r00t at gmail.com >>>> 16. mailto:schwidom at gmx.net >>>> 17. >>> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/names.c#L807 >>>> 18. >>> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/platform.c#L1915 >>>> 19. >>> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-unix.c#L147 >>>> 20. >>> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-std.c#L494 >>>> 21. >>> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/readline.git/tree/tilde.c?h=devel#n187 >>>> 22. mailto:R-help at r-project.org >>>> 23. https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >>>> 24. http://www.r-project.org/posting-guide.html >>>> 25. mailto:R-devel at r-project.org >>>> 26. https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel >>>> 27. mailto:R-devel at r-project.org >>>> 28. https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel >>> >>> ______________________________________________ >>> R-devel at r-project.org mailing list >>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel >>> >> >> [[alternative HTML version deleted]] >> >> ______________________________________________ >> R-devel at r-project.org mailing list >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel >>> ______________________________________________ > R-devel at r-project.org mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
@ Gabriel: "Avoid tilde in file names": Not quite. A tilde *suffix* is commonly used by *nix editors for backup files https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/76189/what-does-the-tilde-mean-at-the-end-of-a-filename On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 2:43 AM Kurt Hornik <Kurt.Hornik at wu.ac.at> wrote:> >>>>> Duncan Murdoch writes: > > With c76695 in the trunk, we now only tilde expand file names starting > with a tilde also when using readline. > > Best > -k > > > On 11/06/2019 4:34 p.m., William Dunlap via R-devel wrote: > >> Note that R treats tildes in file names differently on Windows and > Linux. > >> On Windows, it is only replaced if it it at the beginning of the line > and > >> is followed by a forward or backward slash or end-of-line. On Linux it > is > >> replaced no matter where it is in the text and ~someUser will be > replaced > >> by someUser's home directory (if 'someUser' is a user with a home > >> directory). > > > That's not quite true: On Linux the bug is in the code that uses > > libreadline, which you don't have to use. If you just specify > > "--no-readline" when you start R, it will be fine on Linux, as far as I > > can see. > > > I wouldn't choose that as the default way to run R (it's pretty > > irritating not to have readline support), but it is a workaround for > > this bug. > > > Duncan Murdoch > > >> > >> Hence, if you have a Windows machine that can look at the file system on > >> your Linux machine you can use file.rename on Windows to change the > names. > >> My inclination would be to use a bash script on Linux to change the > names, > >> but if you are not comfortable with bash try the Windows approach. > >> > >> Bill Dunlap > >> TIBCO Software > >> wdunlap tibco.com > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 1:13 PM Frank Schwidom <schwidom at gmx.net> > wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Gabriel, > >>> > >>> I actually want to make renames over thousands of files. But if I am > not > >>> able to express the source filename of the rename operation I will not > be > >>> able to get the work done. Besides the fact that there are issues I > think > >>> that R is qualified for solving my problem by the method how it can > handle > >>> long vectors of strings, booleans and also lists. > >>> > >>> Kind regards, > >>> Frank > >>> > >>> On 2019-06-11 09:49:17, Gabriel Becker wrote: > >>>> Hi Frank, > >>>> I'm hesitant to be "that guy", but in case no one else has brought > >>> this up > >>>> to you, having files with a tilde in their names (generally but > >>> especially > >>>> on a linux system, where ~ in file names has a very important special > >>>> meaning in some cases, as we know) strikes me as an exceptionally bad > >>>> practice anyway. In light of that, the solution with the smallest > >>> amount > >>>> of pain for you is almost surely to just... not do that. Your > >>> filenames > >>>> will be better for it anyway. > >>>> There is a reason no one has complained about this before, and while I > >>>> haven't run a study or anything, I strongly suspect its that > >>> "everyone" > >>>> else is already on the "no tildes in filenames" bandwagon, so this > >>>> behavior, even if technically a bug, has no ability to cause them > >>>> problems. > >>>> Best, > >>>> ~G > >>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Frank Schwidom <[1]schwidom at gmx.net> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> yes, I have seen this package and it has the same tilde expanding > >>>> problem. > >>>> > >>>> Please excuse me I will cc this answer to r-help and r-devel to > >>> keep the > >>>> discussion running. > >>>> > >>>> Kind regards, > >>>> Frank Schwidom > >>>> > >>>> On 2019-06-11 09:12:36, G?bor Cs?rdi wrote: > >>>> > Just in case, have you seen the fs package? > >>>> > [2]https://fs.r-lib.org/ > >>>> > > >>>> > Gabor > >>>> > > >>>> > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 7:51 AM Frank Schwidom <[3] > >>> schwidom at gmx.net> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > > > >>>> > > Hi, > >>>> > > > >>>> > > to get rid of any possible filename modification I started a > >>> little > >>>> project to cover my usecase: > >>>> > > > >>>> > > [4]https://github.com/schwidom/simplefs > >>>> > > > >>>> > > This is my first R package, suggestions and a review are > >>> welcome. > >>>> > > > >>>> > > Thanks in advance > >>>> > > Frank Schwidom > >>>> > > > >>>> > > On 2019-06-07 09:04:06, Richard O'Keefe wrote: > >>>> > > > How can expanding tildes anywhere but the beginning of a > >>> file > >>>> name NOT be > >>>> > > > considered a bug? > >>>> > > > On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 23:04, Ivan Krylov > >>>> <[1][5]krylov.r00t at gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 18:07:15 +0200 > >>>> > > > Frank Schwidom <[2][6]schwidom at gmx.net> wrote: > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > +> path.expand("a ~ b") > >>>> > > > > [1] "a /home/user b" > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > How can I switch off any file crippling activity? > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > It doesn't seem to be possible if readline is enabled and > >>>> works > >>>> > > > correctly. > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > Calls to path.expand [1] end up [2] in R_ExpandFileName > >>> [3], > >>>> which > >>>> > > > calls R_ExpandFileName_readline [4], which uses > >>> libreadline > >>>> function > >>>> > > > tilde_expand [5]. tilde_expand seems to be designed to > >>> expand > >>>> '~' > >>>> > > > anywhere in the string it is handed, i.e. operate on > >>> whole > >>>> command > >>>> > > > lines, not file paths. > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > I am taking the liberty of Cc-ing R-devel in case this > >>> can be > >>>> > > > considered a bug. > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > -- > >>>> > > > Best regards, > >>>> > > > Ivan > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > [1] > >>>> > > > > >>>> [3][7] > >>> > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/names.c#L807 > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > [2] > >>>> > > > > >>>> [4][8] > >>> > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/platform.c#L1915 > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > [3] > >>>> > > > > >>>> [5][9] > >>> > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-unix.c#L147 > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > [4] > >>>> > > > > >>>> [6][10] > >>> > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-std.c#L494 > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > [5] > >>>> > > > > >>>> [7][11] > >>> > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/readline.git/tree/tilde.c?h=devel#n187 > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > ______________________________________________ > >>>> > > > [8][12]R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To > >>> UNSUBSCRIBE > >>>> and more, see > >>>> > > > [9][13]https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > >>>> > > > PLEASE do read the posting guide > >>>> > > > [10][14]http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > >>>> > > > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, > >>> reproducible > >>>> code. > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > References > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > Visible links > >>>> > > > 1. mailto:[15]krylov.r00t at gmail.com > >>>> > > > 2. mailto:[16]schwidom at gmx.net > >>>> > > > 3. > >>>> [17] > >>> > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/names.c#L807 > >>>> > > > 4. > >>>> [18] > >>> > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/platform.c#L1915 > >>>> > > > 5. > >>>> [19] > >>> > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-unix.c#L147 > >>>> > > > 6. > >>>> [20] > >>> > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-std.c#L494 > >>>> > > > 7. > >>>> [21] > >>> > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/readline.git/tree/tilde.c?h=devel#n187 > >>>> > > > 8. mailto:[22]R-help at r-project.org > >>>> > > > 9. [23]https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > >>>> > > > 10. [24]http://www.r-project.org/posting-guide.html > >>>> > > > >>>> > > ______________________________________________ > >>>> > > [25]R-devel at r-project.org mailing list > >>>> > > [26]https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> ______________________________________________ > >>>> [27]R-devel at r-project.org mailing list > >>>> [28]https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel > >>>> > >>>> References > >>>> > >>>> Visible links > >>>> 1. mailto:schwidom at gmx.net > >>>> 2. https://fs.r-lib.org/ > >>>> 3. mailto:schwidom at gmx.net > >>>> 4. https://github.com/schwidom/simplefs > >>>> 5. mailto:krylov.r00t at gmail.com > >>>> 6. mailto:schwidom at gmx.net > >>>> 7. > >>> > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/names.c#L807 > >>>> 8. > >>> > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/platform.c#L1915 > >>>> 9. > >>> > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-unix.c#L147 > >>>> 10. > >>> > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-std.c#L494 > >>>> 11. > >>> > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/readline.git/tree/tilde.c?h=devel#n187 > >>>> 12. mailto:R-help at r-project.org > >>>> 13. https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > >>>> 14. http://www.r-project.org/posting-guide.html > >>>> 15. mailto:krylov.r00t at gmail.com > >>>> 16. mailto:schwidom at gmx.net > >>>> 17. > >>> > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/names.c#L807 > >>>> 18. > >>> > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/platform.c#L1915 > >>>> 19. > >>> > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-unix.c#L147 > >>>> 20. > >>> > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-std.c#L494 > >>>> 21. > >>> > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/readline.git/tree/tilde.c?h=devel#n187 > >>>> 22. mailto:R-help at r-project.org > >>>> 23. https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > >>>> 24. http://www.r-project.org/posting-guide.html > >>>> 25. mailto:R-devel at r-project.org > >>>> 26. https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel > >>>> 27. mailto:R-devel at r-project.org > >>>> 28. https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel > >>> > >>> ______________________________________________ > >>> R-devel at r-project.org mailing list > >>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel > >>> > >> > >> [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > >> > >> ______________________________________________ > >> R-devel at r-project.org mailing list > >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel > >> > > > ______________________________________________ > > R-devel at r-project.org mailing list > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel > > ______________________________________________ > R-devel at r-project.org mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel >[[alternative HTML version deleted]]
On Wed, Jun 12, 2019, 5:16 AM Paul McQuesten <mcquesten at gmail.com> wrote:> @ Gabriel: > > "Avoid tilde in file names": > Not quite. > A tilde *suffix* is commonly used by *nix editors for backup files > > https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/76189/what-does-the-tilde-mean-at-the-end-of-a-filenameI'm aware of that, but that isn't the case that is being discussed, as the example given clearly had a tilde (and spaces) in the middle of the file. Backup files witilde suffix does not trigger the bug being discussed. It's *only* files paths where the tilde is surrounded on both by spaces (or on the right by the end fo the string) that trigger it.> path.expand("a~b")[1] "a~b"> path.expand("a ~ b")[1] "a /Users/gabrielbecker b"> path.expand("myfile.txt~")[1] "myfile.txt~"> path.expand("myfile.txt ~")[1] "myfile.txt /Users/gabrielbecker" All that said I'm really not interested in participating in a flame war over this. I gave my 2 cents as respectfully as I could, so as of now please consider my participation and interest in this thread closed. Best, ~G> > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 2:43 AM Kurt Hornik <Kurt.Hornik at wu.ac.at> wrote: > > > >>>>> Duncan Murdoch writes: > > > > With c76695 in the trunk, we now only tilde expand file names starting > > with a tilde also when using readline. > > > > Best > > -k > > > > > On 11/06/2019 4:34 p.m., William Dunlap via R-devel wrote: > > >> Note that R treats tildes in file names differently on Windows and > > Linux. > > >> On Windows, it is only replaced if it it at the beginning of the line > > and > > >> is followed by a forward or backward slash or end-of-line. On Linux > it > > is > > >> replaced no matter where it is in the text and ~someUser will be > > replaced > > >> by someUser's home directory (if 'someUser' is a user with a home > > >> directory). > > > > > That's not quite true: On Linux the bug is in the code that uses > > > libreadline, which you don't have to use. If you just specify > > > "--no-readline" when you start R, it will be fine on Linux, as far as I > > > can see. > > > > > I wouldn't choose that as the default way to run R (it's pretty > > > irritating not to have readline support), but it is a workaround for > > > this bug. > > > > > Duncan Murdoch > > > > >> > > >> Hence, if you have a Windows machine that can look at the file system > on > > >> your Linux machine you can use file.rename on Windows to change the > > names. > > >> My inclination would be to use a bash script on Linux to change the > > names, > > >> but if you are not comfortable with bash try the Windows approach. > > >> > > >> Bill Dunlap > > >> TIBCO Software > > >> wdunlap tibco.com > > >> > > >> > > >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 1:13 PM Frank Schwidom <schwidom at gmx.net> > > wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hi Gabriel, > > >>> > > >>> I actually want to make renames over thousands of files. But if I am > > not > > >>> able to express the source filename of the rename operation I will > not > > be > > >>> able to get the work done. Besides the fact that there are issues I > > think > > >>> that R is qualified for solving my problem by the method how it can > > handle > > >>> long vectors of strings, booleans and also lists. > > >>> > > >>> Kind regards, > > >>> Frank > > >>> > > >>> On 2019-06-11 09:49:17, Gabriel Becker wrote: > > >>>> Hi Frank, > > >>>> I'm hesitant to be "that guy", but in case no one else has brought > > >>> this up > > >>>> to you, having files with a tilde in their names (generally but > > >>> especially > > >>>> on a linux system, where ~ in file names has a very important > special > > >>>> meaning in some cases, as we know) strikes me as an exceptionally > bad > > >>>> practice anyway. In light of that, the solution with the smallest > > >>> amount > > >>>> of pain for you is almost surely to just... not do that. Your > > >>> filenames > > >>>> will be better for it anyway. > > >>>> There is a reason no one has complained about this before, and > while I > > >>>> haven't run a study or anything, I strongly suspect its that > > >>> "everyone" > > >>>> else is already on the "no tildes in filenames" bandwagon, so this > > >>>> behavior, even if technically a bug, has no ability to cause them > > >>>> problems. > > >>>> Best, > > >>>> ~G > > >>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Frank Schwidom <[1]schwidom at gmx.net > > > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> Hi, > > >>>> > > >>>> yes, I have seen this package and it has the same tilde expanding > > >>>> problem. > > >>>> > > >>>> Please excuse me I will cc this answer to r-help and r-devel to > > >>> keep the > > >>>> discussion running. > > >>>> > > >>>> Kind regards, > > >>>> Frank Schwidom > > >>>> > > >>>> On 2019-06-11 09:12:36, G?bor Cs?rdi wrote: > > >>>> > Just in case, have you seen the fs package? > > >>>> > [2]https://fs.r-lib.org/ > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Gabor > > >>>> > > > >>>> > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 7:51 AM Frank Schwidom <[3] > > >>> schwidom at gmx.net> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > Hi, > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > to get rid of any possible filename modification I started a > > >>> little > > >>>> project to cover my usecase: > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > [4]https://github.com/schwidom/simplefs > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > This is my first R package, suggestions and a review are > > >>> welcome. > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > Thanks in advance > > >>>> > > Frank Schwidom > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > On 2019-06-07 09:04:06, Richard O'Keefe wrote: > > >>>> > > > How can expanding tildes anywhere but the beginning of a > > >>> file > > >>>> name NOT be > > >>>> > > > considered a bug? > > >>>> > > > On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 23:04, Ivan Krylov > > >>>> <[1][5]krylov.r00t at gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 18:07:15 +0200 > > >>>> > > > Frank Schwidom <[2][6]schwidom at gmx.net> wrote: > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > +> path.expand("a ~ b") > > >>>> > > > > [1] "a /home/user b" > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > How can I switch off any file crippling activity? > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > It doesn't seem to be possible if readline is enabled and > > >>>> works > > >>>> > > > correctly. > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > Calls to path.expand [1] end up [2] in R_ExpandFileName > > >>> [3], > > >>>> which > > >>>> > > > calls R_ExpandFileName_readline [4], which uses > > >>> libreadline > > >>>> function > > >>>> > > > tilde_expand [5]. tilde_expand seems to be designed to > > >>> expand > > >>>> '~' > > >>>> > > > anywhere in the string it is handed, i.e. operate on > > >>> whole > > >>>> command > > >>>> > > > lines, not file paths. > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > I am taking the liberty of Cc-ing R-devel in case this > > >>> can be > > >>>> > > > considered a bug. > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > -- > > >>>> > > > Best regards, > > >>>> > > > Ivan > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > [1] > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> [3][7] > > >>> > > > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/names.c#L807 > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > [2] > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> [4][8] > > >>> > > > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/platform.c#L1915 > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > [3] > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> [5][9] > > >>> > > > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-unix.c#L147 > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > [4] > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> [6][10] > > >>> > > > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-std.c#L494 > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > [5] > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> [7][11] > > >>> > > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/readline.git/tree/tilde.c?h=devel#n187 > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > ______________________________________________ > > >>>> > > > [8][12]R-help at r-project.org mailing list -- To > > >>> UNSUBSCRIBE > > >>>> and more, see > > >>>> > > > [9][13]https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > > >>>> > > > PLEASE do read the posting guide > > >>>> > > > [10][14]http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > > >>>> > > > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, > > >>> reproducible > > >>>> code. > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > References > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > Visible links > > >>>> > > > 1. mailto:[15]krylov.r00t at gmail.com > > >>>> > > > 2. mailto:[16]schwidom at gmx.net > > >>>> > > > 3. > > >>>> [17] > > >>> > > > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/names.c#L807 > > >>>> > > > 4. > > >>>> [18] > > >>> > > > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/platform.c#L1915 > > >>>> > > > 5. > > >>>> [19] > > >>> > > > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-unix.c#L147 > > >>>> > > > 6. > > >>>> [20] > > >>> > > > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-std.c#L494 > > >>>> > > > 7. > > >>>> [21] > > >>> > > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/readline.git/tree/tilde.c?h=devel#n187 > > >>>> > > > 8. mailto:[22]R-help at r-project.org > > >>>> > > > 9. [23]https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > > >>>> > > > 10. [24]http://www.r-project.org/posting-guide.html > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > ______________________________________________ > > >>>> > > [25]R-devel at r-project.org mailing list > > >>>> > > [26]https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > >>>> ______________________________________________ > > >>>> [27]R-devel at r-project.org mailing list > > >>>> [28]https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel > > >>>> > > >>>> References > > >>>> > > >>>> Visible links > > >>>> 1. mailto:schwidom at gmx.net > > >>>> 2. https://fs.r-lib.org/ > > >>>> 3. mailto:schwidom at gmx.net > > >>>> 4. https://github.com/schwidom/simplefs > > >>>> 5. mailto:krylov.r00t at gmail.com > > >>>> 6. mailto:schwidom at gmx.net > > >>>> 7. > > >>> > > > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/names.c#L807 > > >>>> 8. > > >>> > > > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/platform.c#L1915 > > >>>> 9. > > >>> > > > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-unix.c#L147 > > >>>> 10. > > >>> > > > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-std.c#L494 > > >>>> 11. > > >>> > > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/readline.git/tree/tilde.c?h=devel#n187 > > >>>> 12. mailto:R-help at r-project.org > > >>>> 13. https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > > >>>> 14. http://www.r-project.org/posting-guide.html > > >>>> 15. mailto:krylov.r00t at gmail.com > > >>>> 16. mailto:schwidom at gmx.net > > >>>> 17. > > >>> > > > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/names.c#L807 > > >>>> 18. > > >>> > > > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/platform.c#L1915 > > >>>> 19. > > >>> > > > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-unix.c#L147 > > >>>> 20. > > >>> > > > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e333348b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-std.c#L494 > > >>>> 21. > > >>> > > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/readline.git/tree/tilde.c?h=devel#n187 > > >>>> 22. mailto:R-help at r-project.org > > >>>> 23. https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > > >>>> 24. http://www.r-project.org/posting-guide.html > > >>>> 25. mailto:R-devel at r-project.org > > >>>> 26. https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel > > >>>> 27. mailto:R-devel at r-project.org > > >>>> 28. https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel > > >>> > > >>> ______________________________________________ > > >>> R-devel at r-project.org mailing list > > >>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel > > >>> > > >> > > >> [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > >> > > >> ______________________________________________ > > >> R-devel at r-project.org mailing list > > >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel > > >> > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > > R-devel at r-project.org mailing list > > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel > > > > ______________________________________________ > > R-devel at r-project.org mailing list > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel > > > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > ______________________________________________ > R-devel at r-project.org mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel >[[alternative HTML version deleted]]