Duncan Murdoch
2018-Jan-30 19:53 UTC
[Rd] Best practices in developing package: From a single file
On 30/01/2018 11:29 AM, Brian G. Peterson wrote:> On Tue, 2018-01-30 at 17:00 +0100, Suzen, Mehmet wrote: >> Dear R developers, >> >> I am wondering what are the best practices for developing an R >> package. I am aware of Hadley Wickham's best practice >> documentation/book (http://r-pkgs.had.co.nz/).??I recall a couple of >> years ago there were some tools for generating a package out of a >> single file, such as using package.skeleton, but no auto-generated >> documentation. Do you know a way to generate documentation and a >> package out of single R source file, or from an environment? > > Mehmet, > > This list is for development of the R language itself and closely > related tools. There is a separate list, R-pkg-devel, for development > of packages. > > Since you're here, I'll try to answer your question. > > package.skeleton can create a package from all the R functions in a > specified environment. So if you load all the functions that you want > in your new package into your R environment, then call > package.skeleton, you'll have a starting point. > > At that point, I would probably recommend moving to RStudio, and using > RStudio to generate markdown comments for roxygen for all your newly > created function files. Then you could finish off the documentation by > writing it in these roxygen skeletons or copying and pasting from > comments in your original code files.I'd agree about moving to RStudio, but I think Roxygen is the wrong approach for documentation. package.skeleton() will have done the boring mechanical part of setting up your .Rd files; all you have to do is edit some content into them. (Use prompt() to add a new file if you add a new function later, don't run package.skeleton() again.) This isn't the fashionable point of view, but I think it is easier to get good documentation that way than using Roxygen. (It's easier to get bad documentation using Roxygen, but who wants that?) The reason I think this is that good documentation requires work and thought. You need to think about the markup that will get your point across, you need to think about putting together good examples, etc. This is *harder* in Roxygen than if you are writing Rd files, because Roxygen is a thin front end to produce Rd files from comments in your .R files. To get good stuff in the help page, you need just as much work as in writing the .Rd file directly, but then you need to add another layer on top to put in in a comment. Most people don't bother. I don't know any packages with what I'd consider to be good documentation that use Roxygen. It's just too easy to write minimal documentation that passes checks, so Roxygen users don't keep refining it. (There are plenty of examples of packages that write bad documentation directly to .Rd as well. I just don't know of examples of packages with good documentation that use Roxygen.) Based on my criticism last week of git and Github, I expect to be called a grumpy old man for holding this point of view. I'd actually like to be proven wrong. So to anyone who disagrees with me: rather than just calling me names, how about some examples of Roxygen-using packages that have good help pages with good explanations, and good examples in them? Back to Mehmet's question: I think Hadley's book is pretty good, and I'd recommend most of it, just not the Roxygen part. Duncan Murdoch
Cook, Malcolm
2018-Jan-30 20:31 UTC
[Rd] Best practices in developing package: From a single file
> >> I am wondering what are the best practices for developing an R> >> package. I am aware of Hadley Wickham's best practice > >> documentation/book (http://r-pkgs.had.co.nz/).??I recall a couple of > >> years ago there were some tools for generating a package out of a > >> single file, such as using package.skeleton, but no auto-generated > >> documentation. Do you know a way to generate documentation and a > >> package out of single R source file, or from an environment? I think you want to see the approach to generating a skeleton from a single .R file presented in: Simple and sustainable R packaging using inlinedocs http://inlinedocs.r-forge.r-project.org/ I have not used it in some time but found it invaluable when I did. I would be VERY INTERESTED to hear how others feel it has held up. Joining conversation late, ~malcolm_cook at stowers.org > > > > Mehmet, > > > > This list is for development of the R language itself and closely > > related tools. There is a separate list, R-pkg-devel, for development > > of packages. > > > > Since you're here, I'll try to answer your question. > > > > package.skeleton can create a package from all the R functions in a > > specified environment. So if you load all the functions that you want > > in your new package into your R environment, then call > > package.skeleton, you'll have a starting point. > > > > At that point, I would probably recommend moving to RStudio, and using > > RStudio to generate markdown comments for roxygen for all your newly > > created function files. Then you could finish off the documentation by > > writing it in these roxygen skeletons or copying and pasting from > > comments in your original code files. > > I'd agree about moving to RStudio, but I think Roxygen is the wrong > approach for documentation. package.skeleton() will have done the > boring mechanical part of setting up your .Rd files; all you have to do > is edit some content into them. (Use prompt() to add a new file if you > add a new function later, don't run package.skeleton() again.) > > This isn't the fashionable point of view, but I think it is easier to > get good documentation that way than using Roxygen. (It's easier to get > bad documentation using Roxygen, but who wants that?) > > The reason I think this is that good documentation requires work and > thought. You need to think about the markup that will get your point > across, you need to think about putting together good examples, etc. > This is *harder* in Roxygen than if you are writing Rd files, because > Roxygen is a thin front end to produce Rd files from comments in your .R > files. To get good stuff in the help page, you need just as much work > as in writing the .Rd file directly, but then you need to add another > layer on top to put in in a comment. Most people don't bother. > > I don't know any packages with what I'd consider to be good > documentation that use Roxygen. It's just too easy to write minimal > documentation that passes checks, so Roxygen users don't keep refining it. > > (There are plenty of examples of packages that write bad documentation > directly to .Rd as well. I just don't know of examples of packages with > good documentation that use Roxygen.) > > Based on my criticism last week of git and Github, I expect to be called > a grumpy old man for holding this point of view. I'd actually like to > be proven wrong. So to anyone who disagrees with me: rather than just > calling me names, how about some examples of Roxygen-using packages > that > have good help pages with good explanations, and good examples in them? > > Back to Mehmet's question: I think Hadley's book is pretty good, and > I'd recommend most of it, just not the Roxygen part. > > Duncan Murdoch > > ______________________________________________ > R-devel at r-project.org mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Dirk Eddelbuettel
2018-Jan-30 21:12 UTC
[Rd] Best practices in developing package: From a single file
Mehmet, That is a loaded topic, not unlikely other topics preoccupying us these days. There is package.skeleton() in base R as you already mentioned. It drove me bonkers that it creates packages which then fail R CMD check, so I wrote a wrapper package (pkgKitten) with another helper function (kitten()) which calls the base R helper and then cleans up it---but otherwise remains faithful to it. These days pkgKitten defaults to creating per-package top-level help page that just references content from DESCRIPTION via a set of newer Rd macros as I find that helps keeping them aligned. The most recent example of mine is https://github.com/eddelbuettel/prrd/blob/master/man/prrd-package.Rd I use either this function or the RStudio template helper all the time. And similarly, other people written similar helpers. You may get other pointers. And every couple of months someone writes a new tutorial about how to write a first package. Then social media goes gaga and we get half a dozen blog posts where someone celebrates finding said tutorial, reading it and following through with a new package. And many of us taught workshops on creating packages. There is a lot of material out here, though lots of this material seems to be entirely ignorant of what came before it. And there has been lots, including Fritz's tutorial from a decade ago: https://epub.ub.uni-muenchen.de/6175/ as well as on CRAN as https://cran.r-project.org/doc/contrib/Leisch-CreatingPackages.pdf So I'd recommend you just experiment and set up your own helpers. After all the rule still holds: Anything you do more than three times should be a function, and every function should be in a package. So customize _your_ function to create your package. Dirk -- http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com | @eddelbuettel | edd at debian.org
Suzen, Mehmet
2018-Jan-30 22:58 UTC
[Rd] Best practices in developing package: From a single file
On 30 January 2018 at 21:31, Cook, Malcolm <MEC at stowers.org> wrote:> > I think you want to see the approach to generating a skeleton from a single .R file presented in: > > Simple and sustainable R packaging using inlinedocs http://inlinedocs.r-forge.r-project.org/ > > I have not used it in some time but found it invaluable when I did.For the record, the package has a JSS article as well: https://www.jstatsoft.org/article/view/v054i06 Best, -m
Joris Meys
2018-Jan-31 11:33 UTC
[Rd] Best practices in developing package: From a single file
Dear Duncan, With all respect, but I strongly disagree on your stance regarding roxygen2 for multiple reasons: 1. It is in my humble opinion not correct to evaluate a tool based on the abuse of some users. It's not because people write packages with bad documentation, that roxygen2 is to blame. I use roxygen2, and I care a great deal about documentation. So I actually took a bit offense there. 2. Writing .Rd files directly means that you have to write out the usage yourself, know the different tags needed for documenting different types of generics and methods, and so forth. It means a lot more iterations to get every tag right so that R CMD check does not complain any more. It requires a more detailed knowledge of the entire Rd tag system compared to letting roxygen2 do the standard work for you. So one could argue that the extra knowledge required would actually hinder starting developers to write good documentation as opposed to help them. 3. given your criticism, I'd like your opinion on where I can improve the documentation of https://github.com/CenterForStatistics-UGent/pim. I'm currently busy updating the help files for a next release on CRAN, so your input is more than welcome. I'm not going to force anyone to use roxygen2. But I personally find it easier to have the function right below the documentation, so that any change to the function can immediately be documented as well. You prefer to do this by keeping that strictly separated, which is absolutely fine. It's just not my prefered workflow. Different animal, different habits I guess. On a sidenote: I had a lot of complaints about earlier iterations of roxygen2 and the many changes to tags and their meanings, but the roxygen2 package matured in the meantime and has been a stable and reliable tool for me the past years. Kind regards Joris On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 8:53 PM, Duncan Murdoch <murdoch.duncan at gmail.com> wrote:> On 30/01/2018 11:29 AM, Brian G. Peterson wrote: > >> On Tue, 2018-01-30 at 17:00 +0100, Suzen, Mehmet wrote: >> >>> Dear R developers, >>> >>> I am wondering what are the best practices for developing an R >>> package. I am aware of Hadley Wickham's best practice >>> documentation/book (http://r-pkgs.had.co.nz/). I recall a couple of >>> years ago there were some tools for generating a package out of a >>> single file, such as using package.skeleton, but no auto-generated >>> documentation. Do you know a way to generate documentation and a >>> package out of single R source file, or from an environment? >>> >> >> Mehmet, >> >> This list is for development of the R language itself and closely >> related tools. There is a separate list, R-pkg-devel, for development >> of packages. >> >> Since you're here, I'll try to answer your question. >> >> package.skeleton can create a package from all the R functions in a >> specified environment. So if you load all the functions that you want >> in your new package into your R environment, then call >> package.skeleton, you'll have a starting point. >> >> At that point, I would probably recommend moving to RStudio, and using >> RStudio to generate markdown comments for roxygen for all your newly >> created function files. Then you could finish off the documentation by >> writing it in these roxygen skeletons or copying and pasting from >> comments in your original code files. >> > > I'd agree about moving to RStudio, but I think Roxygen is the wrong > approach for documentation. package.skeleton() will have done the boring > mechanical part of setting up your .Rd files; all you have to do is edit > some content into them. (Use prompt() to add a new file if you add a new > function later, don't run package.skeleton() again.) > > This isn't the fashionable point of view, but I think it is easier to get > good documentation that way than using Roxygen. (It's easier to get bad > documentation using Roxygen, but who wants that?) > > The reason I think this is that good documentation requires work and > thought. You need to think about the markup that will get your point > across, you need to think about putting together good examples, etc. > This is *harder* in Roxygen than if you are writing Rd files, because > Roxygen is a thin front end to produce Rd files from comments in your .R > files. To get good stuff in the help page, you need just as much work as > in writing the .Rd file directly, but then you need to add another layer on > top to put in in a comment. Most people don't bother. > > I don't know any packages with what I'd consider to be good documentation > that use Roxygen. It's just too easy to write minimal documentation that > passes checks, so Roxygen users don't keep refining it. > > (There are plenty of examples of packages that write bad documentation > directly to .Rd as well. I just don't know of examples of packages with > good documentation that use Roxygen.) > > Based on my criticism last week of git and Github, I expect to be called a > grumpy old man for holding this point of view. I'd actually like to be > proven wrong. So to anyone who disagrees with me: rather than just > calling me names, how about some examples of Roxygen-using packages that > have good help pages with good explanations, and good examples in them? > > Back to Mehmet's question: I think Hadley's book is pretty good, and I'd > recommend most of it, just not the Roxygen part. > > Duncan Murdoch > > > ______________________________________________ > R-devel at r-project.org mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel >-- Joris Meys Statistical consultant Department of Data Analysis and Mathematical Modelling Ghent University Coupure Links 653, B-9000 Gent (Belgium) <https://maps.google.com/?q=Coupure+links+653,%C2%A0B-9000+Gent,%C2%A0Belgium&entry=gmail&source=g> ----------- Biowiskundedagen 2017-2018 http://www.biowiskundedagen.ugent.be/ ------------------------------- Disclaimer : http://helpdesk.ugent.be/e-maildisclaimer.php [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
Duncan Murdoch
2018-Jan-31 12:10 UTC
[Rd] Best practices in developing package: From a single file
On 31/01/2018 6:33 AM, Joris Meys wrote:> Dear Duncan, > > With all respect, but I strongly disagree on your stance regarding > roxygen2 for multiple reasons: > > 1. It is in my humble opinion not correct to evaluate a tool based on > the abuse of some users. It's not because people write packages with bad > documentation, that roxygen2 is to blame. I use roxygen2, and I care a > great deal about documentation. So I actually took a bit offense there.Sorry about that. I did say I wanted to be proven wrong.> 2. Writing .Rd files directly means that you have to write out the usage > yourself, know the different tags needed for documenting different types > of generics and methods, and so forth.Not at all --- that's what the prompt() function does.> It means a lot more iterations to > get every tag right so that R CMD check does not complain any more. It > requires a more detailed knowledge of the entire Rd tag system compared > to letting roxygen2 do the standard work for you. So one could argue > that the extra knowledge required would actually hinder starting > developers to write good documentation as opposed to help them.New users (and old users) should use prompt() to set up the basic help page. There are situations where prompt() doesn't help, namely edits to existing pages: - adding a second function. - adding new parameters. I think the infrastructure is there to allow functions to be written to do these things, but as far as I know nobody has done it.> > 3. given your criticism, I'd like your opinion on where I can improve > the documentation of https://github.com/CenterForStatistics-UGent/pim. > I'm currently busy updating the help files for a next release on CRAN, > so your input is more than welcome.Sure, I'll take a look.> I'm not going to force anyone to use roxygen2. But I personally find it > easier to have the function right below the documentation, so that any > change to the function can immediately be documented as well. You prefer > to do this by keeping that strictly separated, which is absolutely fine. > It's just not my prefered workflow. Different animal, different habits I > guess. > > On a sidenote: I had a lot of complaints about earlier iterations of > roxygen2 and the many changes to tags and their meanings, but the > roxygen2 package matured in the meantime and has been a stable and > reliable tool for me the past years.I formed my opinion several years ago, so perhaps I should take another look. One problem is lock-in: once you write an Rd file, you can't (as far as I know) easily import it as Roxygen markup. So I'd have to start a new package to get experience with Roxygen. Maybe it should be the package that adds the Rd tools mentioned above :-). Duncan Murdoch> > Kind regards > Joris > > > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 8:53 PM, Duncan Murdoch > <murdoch.duncan at gmail.com <mailto:murdoch.duncan at gmail.com>> wrote: > > On 30/01/2018 11:29 AM, Brian G. Peterson wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-01-30 at 17:00 +0100, Suzen, Mehmet wrote: > > Dear R developers, > > I am wondering what are the best practices for developing an R > package. I am aware of Hadley Wickham's best practice > documentation/book (http://r-pkgs.had.co.nz/).??I recall a > couple of > years ago there were some tools for generating a package out > of a > single file, such as using package.skeleton, but no > auto-generated > documentation. Do you know a way to generate documentation and a > package out of single R source file, or from an environment? > > > Mehmet, > > This list is for development of the R language itself and closely > related tools.? There is a separate list, R-pkg-devel, for > development > of packages. > > Since you're here, I'll try to answer your question. > > package.skeleton can create a package from all the R functions in a > specified environment.? So if you load all the functions that > you want > in your new package into your R environment, then call > package.skeleton, you'll have a starting point. > > At that point, I would probably recommend moving to RStudio, and > using > RStudio to generate markdown comments for roxygen for all your newly > created function files.? Then you could finish off the > documentation by > writing it in these roxygen skeletons or copying and pasting from > comments in your original code files. > > > I'd agree about moving to RStudio, but I think Roxygen is the wrong > approach for documentation.? package.skeleton() will have done the > boring mechanical part of setting up your .Rd files; all you have to > do is edit some content into them.? (Use prompt() to add a new file > if you add a new function later, don't run package.skeleton() again.) > > This isn't the fashionable point of view, but I think it is easier > to get good documentation that way than using Roxygen.? (It's easier > to get bad documentation using Roxygen, but who wants that?) > > The reason I think this is that good documentation requires work and > thought.? You need to think about the markup that will get your > point across, you need to think about putting together good > examples, etc. > This is *harder* in Roxygen than if you are writing Rd files, > because Roxygen is a thin front end to produce Rd files from > comments in your .R files.? To get good stuff in the help page, you > need just as much work as in writing the .Rd file directly, but then > you need to add another layer on top to put in in a comment.? Most > people don't bother. > > I don't know any packages with what I'd consider to be good > documentation that use Roxygen.? It's just too easy to write minimal > documentation that passes checks, so Roxygen users don't keep > refining it. > > (There are plenty of examples of packages that write bad > documentation directly to .Rd as well.? I just don't know of > examples of packages with good documentation that use Roxygen.) > > Based on my criticism last week of git and Github, I expect to be > called a grumpy old man for holding this point of view.? I'd > actually like to be proven wrong.? So to anyone who disagrees with > me:? rather than just calling me names, how about some examples of > Roxygen-using packages that have good help pages with good > explanations, and good examples in them? > > Back to Mehmet's question:? I think Hadley's book is pretty good, > and I'd recommend most of it, just not the Roxygen part. > > Duncan Murdoch > > > ______________________________________________ > R-devel at r-project.org <mailto:R-devel at r-project.org> mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel > <https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel> > > > > > -- > Joris Meys > Statistical consultant > > Department of Data Analysis and Mathematical Modelling > Ghent University > Coupure Links 653, B-9000 Gent (Belgium) > <https://maps.google.com/?q=Coupure+links+653,%C2%A0B-9000+Gent,%C2%A0Belgium&entry=gmail&source=g> > > ----------- > Biowiskundedagen 2017-2018 > http://www.biowiskundedagen.ugent.be/ > > ------------------------------- > Disclaimer : http://helpdesk.ugent.be/e-maildisclaimer.php
Duncan Murdoch
2018-Jan-31 12:41 UTC
[Rd] Best practices in developing package: From a single file
On 31/01/2018 6:33 AM, Joris Meys wrote:> 3. given your criticism, I'd like your opinion on where I can improve > the documentation of https://github.com/CenterForStatistics-UGent/pim. > I'm currently busy updating the help files for a next release on CRAN, > so your input is more than welcome.After this invitation I sent some private comments to Joris. I would say his package does a pretty good job of documentation; it isn't the kind of Roxygen-using package that I was complaining about. So I will say I have received an example of a Roxygen-using package that has good help pages. Duncan Murdoch
Michael Lawrence
2018-Jan-31 15:53 UTC
[Rd] Best practices in developing package: From a single file
I pretty much agree. I tried using roxygen when it was first released but couldn't stand putting documentation in comments, especially for complex, S4-based software. Rd is easy to read and write and lets me focus on the task of writing documentation (focus is the hardest part of any task for me). Probably the best feature of roxygen is that it automatically generates \usage{}, which is otherwise completely redundant with the code. I think the preceeding systems like doxygen, javadoc, gtk-doc, qtdoc, etc, found a nice compromise through templating, where the bulk of the details are written into the template, and just the essentials (usage, arguments, return value) were embedded in the source file. I think this is even more important for R, since we're often describing complex algorithms, while most C/C++/Java software is oriented complex classes containing many relatively simple methods. Michael On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 11:53 AM, Duncan Murdoch <murdoch.duncan at gmail.com> wrote:> On 30/01/2018 11:29 AM, Brian G. Peterson wrote: > >> On Tue, 2018-01-30 at 17:00 +0100, Suzen, Mehmet wrote: >> >>> Dear R developers, >>> >>> I am wondering what are the best practices for developing an R >>> package. I am aware of Hadley Wickham's best practice >>> documentation/book (http://r-pkgs.had.co.nz/). I recall a couple of >>> years ago there were some tools for generating a package out of a >>> single file, such as using package.skeleton, but no auto-generated >>> documentation. Do you know a way to generate documentation and a >>> package out of single R source file, or from an environment? >>> >> >> Mehmet, >> >> This list is for development of the R language itself and closely >> related tools. There is a separate list, R-pkg-devel, for development >> of packages. >> >> Since you're here, I'll try to answer your question. >> >> package.skeleton can create a package from all the R functions in a >> specified environment. So if you load all the functions that you want >> in your new package into your R environment, then call >> package.skeleton, you'll have a starting point. >> >> At that point, I would probably recommend moving to RStudio, and using >> RStudio to generate markdown comments for roxygen for all your newly >> created function files. Then you could finish off the documentation by >> writing it in these roxygen skeletons or copying and pasting from >> comments in your original code files. >> > > I'd agree about moving to RStudio, but I think Roxygen is the wrong > approach for documentation. package.skeleton() will have done the boring > mechanical part of setting up your .Rd files; all you have to do is edit > some content into them. (Use prompt() to add a new file if you add a new > function later, don't run package.skeleton() again.) > > This isn't the fashionable point of view, but I think it is easier to get > good documentation that way than using Roxygen. (It's easier to get bad > documentation using Roxygen, but who wants that?) > > The reason I think this is that good documentation requires work and > thought. You need to think about the markup that will get your point > across, you need to think about putting together good examples, etc. > This is *harder* in Roxygen than if you are writing Rd files, because > Roxygen is a thin front end to produce Rd files from comments in your .R > files. To get good stuff in the help page, you need just as much work as > in writing the .Rd file directly, but then you need to add another layer on > top to put in in a comment. Most people don't bother. > > I don't know any packages with what I'd consider to be good documentation > that use Roxygen. It's just too easy to write minimal documentation that > passes checks, so Roxygen users don't keep refining it. > > (There are plenty of examples of packages that write bad documentation > directly to .Rd as well. I just don't know of examples of packages with > good documentation that use Roxygen.) > > Based on my criticism last week of git and Github, I expect to be called a > grumpy old man for holding this point of view. I'd actually like to be > proven wrong. So to anyone who disagrees with me: rather than just > calling me names, how about some examples of Roxygen-using packages that > have good help pages with good explanations, and good examples in them? > > Back to Mehmet's question: I think Hadley's book is pretty good, and I'd > recommend most of it, just not the Roxygen part. > > Duncan Murdoch > > > ______________________________________________ > R-devel at r-project.org mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel >[[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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