Hi, For those of you running puppet as non root and are using puppet to manage itself via service, exec or want to use the moo puppet command I have found a fix and submitted a pull request to fix this problem in puppet core. This problem is only unique to non root installations. See http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/23053 Example usage in puppet. # Due to this bug we cannot control puppet with puppet service{"puppet": ensure => “running", provider => "init", hasstatus => true, hasrestart => true, path => $initd_dir, } Example usage in mcollective: mco puppet … Just thought I would share as I am sure others are running into this issue. Corey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/EDF8B2D2-4E98-4518-94AD-DD474EC346FB%40logicminds.biz. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.