Puppet users - Aug 2013 - The Foreman: Query facts from ENC PuppetDB?

I''ve been using PuppetDB as an ENC for a while, but I haven''t
really
utilized it for stored configs or anything. I was mostly interested in 
replacing Dashboard''s reporting capabilities, but PuppetDB
doesn''t yet do
anything (that I can see) with reports. So I''m currently looking into 
setting up a separate Foreman server.

I saw the script mentioned in the manual that''s meant to be run as a
cron
job on the master, which should push facts to the Foreman, but is there a 
way to do the reverse, and have the Foreman query the Master or PuppetDB 
directly for facts?

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Script in question:
http://goo.gl/L2TukF

It''s a pretty simple script. It just reads facts from all .yaml files
in
/var/lib/puppet/yaml/facts/ and posts them to the Foreman. Would it be of
any benefit to instead run a cron job on the Foreman server to do a REST
call to the PuppetDB server to query these facts?


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Stephen Price <steeef@gmail.com> wrote:
> I''ve been using PuppetDB as an ENC for a while, but I
haven''t really
> utilized it for stored configs or anything. I was mostly interested in
> replacing Dashboard''s reporting capabilities, but PuppetDB
doesn''t yet do
> anything (that I can see) with reports. So I''m currently looking
into
> setting up a separate Foreman server.
>
> I saw the script mentioned in the manual that''s meant to be run as
a cron
> job on the master, which should push facts to the Foreman, but is there a
> way to do the reverse, and have the Foreman query the Master or PuppetDB
> directly for facts?
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> I''ve been using PuppetDB as an ENC for a while,
So PuppetDB is not an ENC, do you mean Foreman?
> but I haven''t really
> utilized it for stored configs or anything. I was mostly interested in
> replacing Dashboard''s reporting capabilities, but PuppetDB
doesn''t yet do
> anything (that I can see) with reports.
So PuppetDB has experimental report storage:
http://docs.puppetlabs.com/puppetdb/1.4/connect_puppet_master.html#edit-puppetconf
> So I''m currently looking into
> setting up a separate Foreman server.
>
> I saw the script mentioned in the manual that''s meant to be run as
a cron
> job on the master, which should push facts to the Foreman, but is there a
> way to do the reverse, and have the Foreman query the Master or PuppetDB
> directly for facts?
So this is possibly not the correct forum to ask? If you don''t get an
answer, you might want to ask on foreman-users:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/foreman-users

ken.

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Sorry, I meant I''m using Hiera as an ENC. I did see that PuppetDB has
report storage, but without an easy way to use that data (short of creating
my own interface utilizing queries to PuppetDB), it''s not very useful
yet.
I figured Foreman would be a decent drop-in for reports.

I got a suggestion from someone else to take a look at creating a custom
facts terminus and have the master sending facts directly to both Foreman
and PuppetDB, but that means designing my own REST interface. Kind of
daunting. Thanks for the tip though. I''ll poke around foreman-users for
some ideas.


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Ken Barber <ken@puppetlabs.com> wrote:
> > I''ve been using PuppetDB as an ENC for a while,
>
> So PuppetDB is not an ENC, do you mean Foreman?
>
> > but I haven''t really
> > utilized it for stored configs or anything. I was mostly interested in
> > replacing Dashboard''s reporting capabilities, but PuppetDB
doesn''t yet do
> > anything (that I can see) with reports.
>
> So PuppetDB has experimental report storage:
>
>
http://docs.puppetlabs.com/puppetdb/1.4/connect_puppet_master.html#edit-puppetconf
>
> > So I''m currently looking into
> > setting up a separate Foreman server.
> >
> > I saw the script mentioned in the manual that''s meant to be
run as a cron
> > job on the master, which should push facts to the Foreman, but is
there a
> > way to do the reverse, and have the Foreman query the Master or
PuppetDB
> > directly for facts?
>
> So this is possibly not the correct forum to ask? If you don''t get
an
> answer, you might want to ask on foreman-users:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/foreman-users
>
> ken.
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There''s a beta frontend for puppetdb floating around the list called 
puppetboard. It handles reports, as well as a few other things. It''s
pretty
sweet, all things considered. 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/puppet-users/puppetboard/puppet-users/PVbPY3z8uFI/5yFZgVIG5wEJ

On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 10:45:55 PM UTC-7, Stephen Price
wrote:
>
> Sorry, I meant I''m using Hiera as an ENC. I did see that PuppetDB
has
> report storage, but without an easy way to use that data (short of creating
> my own interface utilizing queries to PuppetDB), it''s not very
useful yet.
> I figured Foreman would be a decent drop-in for reports.
>
> I got a suggestion from someone else to take a look at creating a custom 
> facts terminus and have the master sending facts directly to both Foreman 
> and PuppetDB, but that means designing my own REST interface. Kind of 
> daunting. Thanks for the tip though. I''ll poke around
foreman-users for
> some ideas.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Ken Barber
<k...@puppetlabs.com<javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>> > I''ve been using PuppetDB as an ENC for a while,
>>
>> So PuppetDB is not an ENC, do you mean Foreman?
>>
>> > but I haven''t really
>> > utilized it for stored configs or anything. I was mostly
interested in
>> > replacing Dashboard''s reporting capabilities, but
PuppetDB doesn''t yet
>> do
>> > anything (that I can see) with reports.
>>
>> So PuppetDB has experimental report storage:
>>
>>
http://docs.puppetlabs.com/puppetdb/1.4/connect_puppet_master.html#edit-puppetconf
>>
>> > So I''m currently looking into
>> > setting up a separate Foreman server.
>> >
>> > I saw the script mentioned in the manual that''s meant to
be run as a
>> cron
>> > job on the master, which should push facts to the Foreman, but is
there
>> a
>> > way to do the reverse, and have the Foreman query the Master or
PuppetDB
>> > directly for facts?
>>
>> So this is possibly not the correct forum to ask? If you don''t
get an
>> answer, you might want to ask on foreman-users:
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/foreman-users
>>
>> ken.
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Thanks! I''ll check it out. I think eventually I can see using Foreman
more
for stuff like ENC and provisioning, but I wanted to proceed cautiously by
just starting with reporting and fact pushing. For now, the example cron
script works ok.


On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Ellison Marks <gtyaoi@gmail.com> wrote:
> There''s a beta frontend for puppetdb floating around the list
called
> puppetboard. It handles reports, as well as a few other things.
It''s pretty
> sweet, all things considered.
>
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/puppet-users/puppetboard/puppet-users/PVbPY3z8uFI/5yFZgVIG5wEJ
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 10:45:55 PM UTC-7, Stephen Price wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I meant I''m using Hiera as an ENC. I did see that
PuppetDB has
>> report storage, but without an easy way to use that data (short of
creating
>> my own interface utilizing queries to PuppetDB), it''s not very
useful yet.
>> I figured Foreman would be a decent drop-in for reports.
>>
>> I got a suggestion from someone else to take a look at creating a
custom
>> facts terminus and have the master sending facts directly to both
Foreman
>> and PuppetDB, but that means designing my own REST interface. Kind of
>> daunting. Thanks for the tip though. I''ll poke around
foreman-users for
>> some ideas.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Ken Barber <k...@puppetlabs.com>
wrote:
>>
>>> > I''ve been using PuppetDB as an ENC for a while,
>>>
>>> So PuppetDB is not an ENC, do you mean Foreman?
>>>
>>> > but I haven''t really
>>> > utilized it for stored configs or anything. I was mostly
interested in
>>> > replacing Dashboard''s reporting capabilities, but
PuppetDB doesn''t yet
>>> do
>>> > anything (that I can see) with reports.
>>>
>>> So PuppetDB has experimental report storage:
>>> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/**puppetdb/1.4/connect_puppet_**
>>>
master.html#edit-puppetconf<http://docs.puppetlabs.com/puppetdb/1.4/connect_puppet_master.html#edit-puppetconf>
>>>
>>> > So I''m currently looking into
>>> > setting up a separate Foreman server.
>>> >
>>> > I saw the script mentioned in the manual that''s meant
to be run as a
>>> cron
>>> > job on the master, which should push facts to the Foreman, but
is
>>> there a
>>> > way to do the reverse, and have the Foreman query the Master
or
>>> PuppetDB
>>> > directly for facts?
>>>
>>> So this is possibly not the correct forum to ask? If you
don''t get an
>>> answer, you might want to ask on foreman-users:
>>>
https://groups.google.com/**forum/#!forum/foreman-users<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/foreman-users>
>>>
>>> ken.
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On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Stephen Price <steeef@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks! I''ll check it out. I think eventually I can see using
Foreman more
> for stuff like ENC and provisioning, but I wanted to proceed cautiously by
> just starting with reporting and fact pushing. For now, the example cron
> script works ok.
>
if you turn on enc functionality, the enc script would actually upload the
facts prior to query enc data (as facts might affect the enc output).

Ohad
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Ellison Marks <gtyaoi@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>> There''s a beta frontend for puppetdb floating around the list
called
>> puppetboard. It handles reports, as well as a few other things.
It''s pretty
>> sweet, all things considered.
>>
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/puppet-users/puppetboard/puppet-users/PVbPY3z8uFI/5yFZgVIG5wEJ
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 10:45:55 PM UTC-7, Stephen Price wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, I meant I''m using Hiera as an ENC. I did see that
PuppetDB has
>>> report storage, but without an easy way to use that data (short of
creating
>>> my own interface utilizing queries to PuppetDB), it''s not
very useful yet.
>>> I figured Foreman would be a decent drop-in for reports.
>>>
>>> I got a suggestion from someone else to take a look at creating a
custom
>>> facts terminus and have the master sending facts directly to both
Foreman
>>> and PuppetDB, but that means designing my own REST interface. Kind
of
>>> daunting. Thanks for the tip though. I''ll poke around
foreman-users for
>>> some ideas.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Ken Barber
<k...@puppetlabs.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> > I''ve been using PuppetDB as an ENC for a while,
>>>>
>>>> So PuppetDB is not an ENC, do you mean Foreman?
>>>>
>>>> > but I haven''t really
>>>> > utilized it for stored configs or anything. I was mostly
interested in
>>>> > replacing Dashboard''s reporting capabilities, but
PuppetDB doesn''t
>>>> yet do
>>>> > anything (that I can see) with reports.
>>>>
>>>> So PuppetDB has experimental report storage:
>>>> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/**puppetdb/1.4/connect_puppet_**
>>>>
master.html#edit-puppetconf<http://docs.puppetlabs.com/puppetdb/1.4/connect_puppet_master.html#edit-puppetconf>
>>>>
>>>> > So I''m currently looking into
>>>> > setting up a separate Foreman server.
>>>> >
>>>> > I saw the script mentioned in the manual that''s
meant to be run as a
>>>> cron
>>>> > job on the master, which should push facts to the Foreman,
but is
>>>> there a
>>>> > way to do the reverse, and have the Foreman query the
Master or
>>>> PuppetDB
>>>> > directly for facts?
>>>>
>>>> So this is possibly not the correct forum to ask? If you
don''t get an
>>>> answer, you might want to ask on foreman-users:
>>>>
https://groups.google.com/**forum/#!forum/foreman-users<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/foreman-users>
>>>>
>>>> ken.
>>>>
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Oh yes, I know that using Foreman as the ENC is the preferred method. I 
just want to evaluate it for reporting/stats first before taking the 
plunge. 

I''ve got the script running with a cron job now, works like a charm.

On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:30:52 PM UTC-7, ohad
wrote:
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Stephen Price
<ste...@gmail.com<javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>> Thanks! I''ll check it out. I think eventually I can see using
Foreman
>> more for stuff like ENC and provisioning, but I wanted to proceed 
>> cautiously by just starting with reporting and fact pushing. For now,
the
>> example cron script works ok.
>>
>
> if you turn on enc functionality, the enc script would actually upload the 
> facts prior to query enc data (as facts might affect the enc output).
>
> Ohad 
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Ellison Marks
<gty...@gmail.com<javascript:>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> There''s a beta frontend for puppetdb floating around the
list called
>>> puppetboard. It handles reports, as well as a few other things.
It''s pretty
>>> sweet, all things considered. 
>>>
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/puppet-users/puppetboard/puppet-users/PVbPY3z8uFI/5yFZgVIG5wEJ
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 10:45:55 PM UTC-7, Stephen Price wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Sorry, I meant I''m using Hiera as an ENC. I did see
that PuppetDB has
>>>> report storage, but without an easy way to use that data (short
of creating
>>>> my own interface utilizing queries to PuppetDB), it''s
not very useful yet.
>>>> I figured Foreman would be a decent drop-in for reports.
>>>>
>>>> I got a suggestion from someone else to take a look at creating
a
>>>> custom facts terminus and have the master sending facts
directly to both
>>>> Foreman and PuppetDB, but that means designing my own REST
interface. Kind
>>>> of daunting. Thanks for the tip though. I''ll poke
around foreman-users for
>>>> some ideas.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Ken Barber
<k...@puppetlabs.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> > I''ve been using PuppetDB as an ENC for a
while,
>>>>>
>>>>> So PuppetDB is not an ENC, do you mean Foreman?
>>>>>
>>>>> > but I haven''t really
>>>>> > utilized it for stored configs or anything. I was
mostly interested
>>>>> in
>>>>> > replacing Dashboard''s reporting capabilities,
but PuppetDB doesn''t
>>>>> yet do
>>>>> > anything (that I can see) with reports.
>>>>>
>>>>> So PuppetDB has experimental report storage:
>>>>> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/**puppetdb/1.4/connect_puppet_**
>>>>>
master.html#edit-puppetconf<http://docs.puppetlabs.com/puppetdb/1.4/connect_puppet_master.html#edit-puppetconf>
>>>>>
>>>>> > So I''m currently looking into
>>>>> > setting up a separate Foreman server.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I saw the script mentioned in the manual
that''s meant to be run as a
>>>>> cron
>>>>> > job on the master, which should push facts to the
Foreman, but is
>>>>> there a
>>>>> > way to do the reverse, and have the Foreman query the
Master or
>>>>> PuppetDB
>>>>> > directly for facts?
>>>>>
>>>>> So this is possibly not the correct forum to ask? If you
don''t get an
>>>>> answer, you might want to ask on foreman-users:
>>>>>
https://groups.google.com/**forum/#!forum/foreman-users<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/foreman-users>
>>>>>
>>>>> ken.
>>>>>
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>>>>
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