Puppet users - Jun 2013 - Puppet and VMWare - A potentially stooopid question

But I''d rather be certain of the answer than guess or try it and go
down in flames:

The question: Can one integrate VMWare with Open Source Puppet ? Or is this a
Puppet-Enterprise-only thing ?


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On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Dan White <ygor@comcast.net> wrote:
> But I''d rather be certain of the answer than guess or try it and
go down
> in flames:
>
> The question:  Can one integrate VMWare with Open Source Puppet ?  Or is
> this a Puppet-Enterprise-only thing ?
>
You can integrate anything you''d like with OSS :) We have a PL
supported
Enterprise-only extension to Cloud Provisioner to integrate with VMWare,
but it uses the open Face API[1]. There''s also a number of open source
modules to stand up and manage VMWare products on the Forge and Github.[2]
How do you want to integrate Puppet w/ VMWare?


 - Justin

1. http://docs.puppetlabs.com/pe/latest/cloudprovisioner_vmware.html
2. https://forge.puppetlabs.com/modules?utf-8=%E2%9C%93&q=vmware
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Take a look at the Viper toolkit from VMWare. You can then create a script 
with the examples given and then use puppet to run the scripts to do stuff 
that you want.

http://www.vmware.com/support/developer/viperltoolkit/

Personally I use a VMA server to create instances, Razor to kickstart and 
register them against a puppetmaster, then puppet master to configure and 
deploy..

On the VMA server I''ve setup some php to allow users to kick off perl 
scripts that start the build process.

If only PL would release a reasonably priced Enterprise (without support 
even!) edition.... 



On Friday, June 21, 2013 7:39:57 AM UTC+10, Ygor wrote:
>
> But I''d rather be certain of the answer than guess or try it and
go down
> in flames:
>
> The question:  Can one integrate VMWare with Open Source Puppet ?  Or is 
> this a Puppet-Enterprise-only thing ?
>
> “Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere 
> in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.”
> Bill Waterson (Calvin & Hobbes)
>
>
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I know I can manage Linux VM’s with Puppet, I guess I am looking to get Puppet
provision them as well.

I believe I will explore the possibilities in The Forge and also whip up a demo
PE-Master to compare.
The demo PE-Master might impress the customer sufficiently to sell the idea of
going that way.

Wish me luck !!

On Jun 20, 2013, at 7:47 PM, Justin Stoller wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Dan White <ygor@comcast.net> wrote:
> But I''d rather be certain of the answer than guess or try it and
go down in flames:
> 
> The question:  Can one integrate VMWare with Open Source Puppet ?  Or is
this a Puppet-Enterprise-only thing ?
> 
> You can integrate anything you''d like with OSS :) We have a PL
supported Enterprise-only extension to Cloud Provisioner to integrate with
VMWare, but it uses the open Face API[1]. There''s also a number of open
source modules to stand up and manage VMWare products on the Forge and
Github.[2] How do you want to integrate Puppet w/ VMWare?
> 
>  - Justin
> 
> 1. http://docs.puppetlabs.com/pe/latest/cloudprovisioner_vmware.html
> 2. https://forge.puppetlabs.com/modules?utf-8=%E2%9C%93&q=vmware
> 
> “Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere
in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.”
> Bill Waterson (Calvin & Hobbes)
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That might work for me if I did not hate Perl.

No offense to folks that like it, but I had a very nasty experience with it
early in my computer-career that pushed me away from it.

I will still check it out.  Thanks for the pointer.

I am currently using Cobbler with Puppet.  I know this combo can create VM’s --
already did it -- but I have been gaining understanding how VMWare works from
its own kind of “templates”, and I would like to see if I can handle them with
Puppet.  I know Enterprise Puppet can do it, but I do not have access to a
bottomless budget :(

On Jun 20, 2013, at 8:53 PM, Michael Dodwell wrote:
> Take a look at the Viper toolkit from VMWare. You can then create a script
with the examples given and then use puppet to run the scripts to do stuff that
you want.
> 
> http://www.vmware.com/support/developer/viperltoolkit/
> 
> Personally I use a VMA server to create instances, Razor to kickstart and
register them against a puppetmaster, then puppet master to configure and
deploy..
> 
> On the VMA server I''ve setup some php to allow users to kick off
perl scripts that start the build process.
> 
> If only PL would release a reasonably priced Enterprise (without support
even!) edition....
> 
> On Friday, June 21, 2013 7:39:57 AM UTC+10, Ygor wrote:
> But I''d rather be certain of the answer than guess or try it and
go down in flames:
> 
> The question:  Can one integrate VMWare with Open Source Puppet ?  Or is
this a Puppet-Enterprise-only thing ?
> 
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VMWare put out SDK''s for a number of languages if you don''t
want to use
perl. Python being another *nix based one. The SDK''s come with a number
of
example scripts that you can cut and paste without much effort to form a
script that should do everything you might want. Or you can wrap them up
with something simple like bash to get the same results.

I personally don''t like vmware templates as you then have to manage and
upgrade them on a semi-regular basis, might as well look after a kickstart
environment and be done with it. Deployment time can be a little longer but
as it''s automated I don''t think it really matters for my
purposes. YMMV.


On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Dan White <ygor@comcast.net> wrote:
> That might work for me if I did not hate Perl.
>
> No offense to folks that like it, but I had a very nasty experience with
> it early in my computer-career that pushed me away from it.
>
> I will still check it out.  Thanks for the pointer.
>
> I am currently using Cobbler with Puppet.  I know this combo can create
> VM’s -- already did it -- but I have been gaining understanding how VMWare
> works from its own kind of “templates”, and I would like to see if I can
> handle them with Puppet.  I know Enterprise Puppet can do it, but I do not
> have access to a bottomless budget :(
>
> On Jun 20, 2013, at 8:53 PM, Michael Dodwell wrote:
>
> Take a look at the Viper toolkit from VMWare. You can then create a script
> with the examples given and then use puppet to run the scripts to do stuff
> that you want.
>
> http://www.vmware.com/support/developer/viperltoolkit/
>
> Personally I use a VMA server to create instances, Razor to kickstart and
> register them against a puppetmaster, then puppet master to configure and
> deploy..
>
> On the VMA server I''ve setup some php to allow users to kick off
perl
> scripts that start the build process.
>
> If only PL would release a reasonably priced Enterprise (without support
> even!) edition....
>
> On Friday, June 21, 2013 7:39:57 AM UTC+10, Ygor wrote:
>>
>> But I''d rather be certain of the answer than guess or try it
and go down
>> in flames:
>>
>> The question:  Can one integrate VMWare with Open Source Puppet ?  Or
is
>> this a Puppet-Enterprise-only thing ?
>>
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