How do folks feel about getting Puppet job listings on this list? I''ve rejected a few that we quite spammy, but when the subject matter really is a system admin with puppet experience, the decision becomes a bit different. I''m looking for general feelings. A simple +1 or -1 would be great. Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
-1 the lack of noise is appreciated on this list. How about another list instead? On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Michael Stahnke <stahnma@puppetlabs.com>wrote:> How do folks feel about getting Puppet job listings on this list? > I''ve rejected a few that we quite spammy, but when the subject matter > really is a system admin with puppet experience, the decision becomes > a bit different. > > I''m looking for general feelings. A simple +1 or -1 would be great. > > > Mike > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Puppet Users" group. > To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. > >-- GVoice: 707.646.9180 LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brendanobra -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Michael Stahnke <stahnma@puppetlabs.com> wrote:> How do folks feel about getting Puppet job listings on this list? > I''ve rejected a few that we quite spammy, but when the subject matter > really is a system admin with puppet experience, the decision becomes > a bit different. > > I''m looking for general feelings. A simple +1 or -1 would be great.-1 on this list. I don''t know if there''s enough job-related traffic to justify a job-specific Puppet list, but that''d be where I''d think such traffic should go. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
+1 On May 30, 2012, at 1:49 PM, Michael Stahnke wrote:> How do folks feel about getting Puppet job listings on this list? > I''ve rejected a few that we quite spammy, but when the subject matter > really is a system admin with puppet experience, the decision becomes > a bit different. > > I''m looking for general feelings. A simple +1 or -1 would be great. > > > Mike > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. > To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. >-- Craig White ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ craig.white@ttiltd.com 1.800.869.6908 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.ttiassessments.com Need help communicating between generations at work to achieve your desired success? Let us help! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
On Wednesday, 30 May 2012 22:49:44 UTC+2, Michael Stanhke wrote:> > How do folks feel about getting Puppet job listings on this list? > I''ve rejected a few that we quite spammy, but when the subject matter > really is a system admin with puppet experience, the decision becomes > a bit different. > > I''m looking for general feelings. A simple +1 or -1 would be great. > > I would like somewhere to post jobs (we have one :-))If it can be somewhere close to the people reading this list so much the better. Steve> > Mike >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/puppet-users/-/kULJFmwfqgMJ. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
On 30/05/2012 21:49, Michael Stahnke wrote:> How do folks feel about getting Puppet job listings on this list? > I''ve rejected a few that we quite spammy, but when the subject matter > really is a system admin with puppet experience, the decision becomes > a bit different.I think very Puppet orientated job listings would be tolerable, but you run the risk of getting every "devopsy" type job that remotely touches on Puppet being posted and that would IMO start to be spammy. You could always encourage people to email you with their job listings and have it sent out as a consolidated email once a week or something? Just a thought. Craig -- Craig Dunn | http://www.craigdunn.org Yahoo/Skype: craigrdunn | Twitter: @crayfishX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 01:49:44PM -0700, Michael Stahnke wrote:> How do folks feel about getting Puppet job listings on this list? > I''ve rejected a few that we quite spammy, but when the subject matter > really is a system admin with puppet experience, the decision becomes > a bit different. > > I''m looking for general feelings. A simple +1 or -1 would be great.-1 on jobs posts to this list. +1 on a new list for jobs/candidates. (Who wants to be a puppet-aware infrastructure sysadmin in Toronto? *coughnospam*)> Mike > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. > To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
On Wed, 30 May 2012, Craig Dunn wrote:> On 30/05/2012 21:49, Michael Stahnke wrote: > >How do folks feel about getting Puppet job listings on this list? > >I''ve rejected a few that we quite spammy, but when the subject matter > >really is a system admin with puppet experience, the decision becomes > >a bit different. > > > I think very Puppet orientated job listings would be tolerable, but > you run the risk of getting every "devopsy" type job that remotely > touches on Puppet being posted and that would IMO start to be > spammy. > > You could always encourage people to email you with their job > listings and have it sent out as a consolidated email once a week or > something? > > Just a thought.I think this is the best idea here, a "This Week in Puppet Jobs" would be a good email, low noise, high signal :) Cheers - R. Tyler Croy -------------------------------------- Code: http://github.com/rtyler Chatter: http://twitter.com/agentdero rtyler@jabber.org
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 01:49:44PM -0700, Michael Stahnke wrote:> > I''m looking for general feelings. A simple +1 or -1 would be great.-1 on this list. John -- Act as if what you do makes a difference. It does. -- William James (1842-1910), American Psychologist, Professor, Author
----- Original Message -----> From: "Michael Stahnke" <stahnma@puppetlabs.com> > To: puppet-users@googlegroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 9:49:44 PM > Subject: [Puppet Users] Thoughts on job listings? > > How do folks feel about getting Puppet job listings on this list? > I''ve rejected a few that we quite spammy, but when the subject matter > really is a system admin with puppet experience, the decision becomes > a bit different. > > I''m looking for general feelings. A simple +1 or -1 would be great.job postings from community members looking for themselves/their employers with clear direct to employer contact information +1 job postings from recruiters -1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
-1 on this list +1 for a moderated, digest-only, list dedicated to this purpose. Trevor On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Michael Stahnke <stahnma@puppetlabs.com> wrote:> How do folks feel about getting Puppet job listings on this list? > I''ve rejected a few that we quite spammy, but when the subject matter > really is a system admin with puppet experience, the decision becomes > a bit different. > > I''m looking for general feelings. A simple +1 or -1 would be great. > > > Mike > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. > To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. >-- Trevor Vaughan Vice President, Onyx Point, Inc (410) 541-6699 tvaughan@onyxpoint.com -- This account not approved for unencrypted proprietary information -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 7:13 AM, R.I.Pienaar <rip@devco.net> wrote:> > job postings from community members looking for themselves/their employers > with clear direct to employer contact information +1 > > job postings from recruiters -1 >+1 to what R.I.P just said :-) The problem with the weekly digest email is that if it goes out on, say, Monday and someone posts an ad on Tuesday, it''ll be almost a week until it goes out to the list, which depending on urgency to fill the role, may not be ideal (for both; the candidate and the company). - Gonzalo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
Having been a job poster I got to say +1. but +1+1 to RIP''s idea 2. On 31/05/2012, at 10:47, Gonzalo Servat <gservat@gmail.com> wrote:> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 7:13 AM, R.I.Pienaar <rip@devco.net> wrote: > > job postings from community members looking for themselves/their employers > with clear direct to employer contact information +1 > > job postings from recruiters -1 > > +1 to what R.I.P just said :-) > > The problem with the weekly digest email is that if it goes out on, say, Monday and someone posts an ad on Tuesday, it''ll be almost a week until it goes out to the list, which depending on urgency to fill the role, may not be ideal (for both; the candidate and the company). > > - Gonzalo > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. > To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
On 5/30/12 11:07 PM, R. Tyler Croy wrote:> I think this is the best idea here, a "This Week in Puppet Jobs" would be a > good email, low noise, high signal :)Oh yes, I like this suggestion too! My +1 -- Alexander Fortin http://about.me/alexanderfortin/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:13 PM, R.I.Pienaar <rip@devco.net> wrote:> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Michael Stahnke" <stahnma@puppetlabs.com> >> To: puppet-users@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 9:49:44 PM >> Subject: [Puppet Users] Thoughts on job listings? >> >> How do folks feel about getting Puppet job listings on this list? >> I''ve rejected a few that we quite spammy, but when the subject matter >> really is a system admin with puppet experience, the decision becomes >> a bit different. >> >> I''m looking for general feelings. A simple +1 or -1 would be great. > > job postings from community members looking for themselves/their employers > with clear direct to employer contact information +1 > > job postings from recruiters -1+1 to both suggestions. If we limit it to relevant on topic postings from principals, and keep recruiters out, it *should* keep volume low. If we do reach consensus to support this, I propose an official written policy that clarifies the requirements, and would probably also require that job listings include "[JOB]" in the subject so that those that aren''t interested can easily set up filters. The official policy should also set the expectation that this is subject to change if volume becomes too high. (In which case we could revisit and look at a designated jobs board/list) In addition, we should limit postings from a single company to a certain limit (Once every two months for example). -Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Brian Gupta <brian.gupta@brandorr.com>wrote:> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:13 PM, R.I.Pienaar <rip@devco.net> wrote: > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Michael Stahnke" <stahnma@puppetlabs.com> > >> To: puppet-users@googlegroups.com > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 9:49:44 PM > >> Subject: [Puppet Users] Thoughts on job listings? > >> > >> How do folks feel about getting Puppet job listings on this list? > >> I''ve rejected a few that we quite spammy, but when the subject matter > >> really is a system admin with puppet experience, the decision becomes > >> a bit different. > >> > >> I''m looking for general feelings. A simple +1 or -1 would be great. > > > > job postings from community members looking for themselves/their > employers > > with clear direct to employer contact information +1 > > > > job postings from recruiters -1 > > +1 to both suggestions. If we limit it to relevant on topic postings > from principals, and keep recruiters out, it *should* keep volume low. >+1 for real needs, -1 for recruiters. When recruiters have a candidate they continue advertising the position in order to get more candidates to show their hard work. Too much noise. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
On 30/05/2012 21:49, Michael Stahnke wrote:> How do folks feel about getting Puppet job listings on this list? > I''ve rejected a few that we quite spammy, but when the subject matter > really is a system admin with puppet experience, the decision becomes > a bit different. > > I''m looking for general feelings. A simple +1 or -1 would be great.So is there an outcome to this? Is it acceptable for community members to post Puppet related jobs here? Craig -- Craig Dunn | http://www.craigdunn.org Yahoo/Skype: craigrdunn | Twitter: @crayfishX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
Linkedin is a good place 2012/5/30, Steve Traylen <steve.traylen@cern.ch>:> On Wednesday, 30 May 2012 22:49:44 UTC+2, Michael Stanhke wrote: >> >> How do folks feel about getting Puppet job listings on this list? >> I''ve rejected a few that we quite spammy, but when the subject matter >> really is a system admin with puppet experience, the decision becomes >> a bit different. >> >> I''m looking for general feelings. A simple +1 or -1 would be great. >> >> I would like somewhere to post jobs (we have one :-)) > If it can be somewhere close to the people reading this list so much the > better. > > Steve > >> >> Mike >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Puppet Users" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/puppet-users/-/kULJFmwfqgMJ. > To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. > >-- Inviato dal mio dispositivo mobile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
+1 for linked in Sent via BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: devzero2000 <pinto.elia@gmail.com> Sender: puppet-users@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 13:31:18 To: <puppet-users@googlegroups.com> Reply-To: puppet-users@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Puppet Users] Thoughts on job listings? Linkedin is a good place 2012/5/30, Steve Traylen <steve.traylen@cern.ch>:> On Wednesday, 30 May 2012 22:49:44 UTC+2, Michael Stanhke wrote: >> >> How do folks feel about getting Puppet job listings on this list? >> I''ve rejected a few that we quite spammy, but when the subject matter >> really is a system admin with puppet experience, the decision becomes >> a bit different. >> >> I''m looking for general feelings. A simple +1 or -1 would be great. >> >> I would like somewhere to post jobs (we have one :-)) > If it can be somewhere close to the people reading this list so much the > better. > > Steve > >> >> Mike >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Puppet Users" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/puppet-users/-/kULJFmwfqgMJ. > To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. > >-- Inviato dal mio dispositivo mobile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
I let this sit for a week or so to see what response would be. In general: If you are a puppet user/community member and want to post a job at your company, that is ok. Please add JOB to the subject line. If you are a recruiter or hiring for a 3rd party, it is not ok. You can use traditional recruiting tools. Mike Stahnke -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
On Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:12:51 UTC+2, Michael Stanhke wrote:> > I let this sit for a week or so to see what response would be. > > In general: > > If you are a puppet user/community member and want to post a job at > your company, that is ok. Please add JOB to the subject line. > > If you are a recruiter or hiring for a 3rd party, it is not ok. You > can use traditional recruiting tools. > > One way to force the generic recruiters out is to only allow people topost a one line top post of whatever advert they like providing they are answering or attempting to answer a question that has been asked. Steve.> > > > Mike Stahnke >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/puppet-users/-/vBf7l8BCJmoJ. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.