James Turnbull
2010-May-28 23:29 UTC
Logging bugs (was Re: [Puppet Users] Toplevel domain and facter)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Klaus Ethgen wrote:> > Behind the line it was more problematic to get to the informations about > the bug tracker and the knowledge to apply to this mailing list with a > non-google address than it is needed and more than it is common with > other software projects. And that was, beside the bug, the main subject > of that thread. And If I look back, I can find that I am not the only > one who is a bit upset about the login need to fill a bug.I don''t believe this is the case personally - a lot of projects use Google Groups - they aren''t perfect but they are pretty effective. Instructions for joining without an account are available, for example the link I provided to you. http://onlygizmos.com/how-to-join-google-groups-without-a-google-id/2009/05/ We''ve looked at a number of other solutions without finding one that met all our requirements - Google Groups is the best fit thus far.> If you want the contribution of other people, just hold the hurdle low. > For the projects I am involved in I am very happy to get bug reports by > mail and if I want to track them in a bug tracker, well, I have no > problem to fill it in myself.I''d love it if this was easy - but it isn''t. The volume of our bug reports - and for most other projects - is way too high to manually track incoming bug reports, patches, updates to tickets. It''s simply not operationally or practically feasible to do this. Additionally, when we ran Trac we were BURIED in spam until we turned on authentication for most things. Redmine is not as bad but we''re starting to get more and more spam. It can take hours to clean-up after a major spam attack - some may remember the Trac spam attack that took me two days to fix - almost every file had been changed. I think our bar to entry is quite low - you can also use OpenID for example on Redmine - but any bug tracking system that is unauthenticated is an open invitation to spammers to mess up your environment. Regards James Turnbull - -- Author of: * Pro Linux Systems Administration (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1430219122/) * Pulling Strings with Puppet (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1590599780/) * Pro Nagios 2.0 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1590596099/) * Hardening Linux (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1590594444/) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEVAwUBTABR2CFa/lDkFHAyAQJokAgAqgu5vY89kQD13RXbCjUlztaSKMwDBZdU VY2xhFj3hmNDpdE1XMHoFGmmj73dE9gjWoEelpOC2ujdUqmPPjQ1ubqz6QHb0ZwD YylM3D2lgKAiJlKC8kXxMnC+l8fS/hLZi1G0ah429YhFmwku/h8wpPNR4fRDe+xc JB/K/7InoA/mj3yeKCX1qIH4imjmgmbedHJg43VE4ikB8MnrK73HkRCoX4U7SaAE V5y1jDBZEHThNjCP+UCiPtVLKGmkpksO7ODrQrMD+pWh1iEp8TYsLbVLeEDLgICf nwJr7B1GM+rAhSi/Ln3xJ9bBnOnpuL2kKRTVOHhozOp6Su32vpzfzw==8mG1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
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