Puppet users - Sep 2007 - New User Problems

I''m trying to try out puppet and can''t seem to get to square
one. I''ve
been using cfengine for years and have just upgraded about 80 Debian 
machines to etch and wanted to try puppet.

So, I have two Debian ''etch'' machines one a server and the
other a client.
I''m running puppet 0.23.2 installed from the unstable packages. As a
first
step I''m trying to create a simple module to ensure that the
/etc/ntp.conf
file is present on the client and has the same contents as the master file 
on the server. I''m also trying to follow the guidance on the wiki for 
Module Organization.

Server:
   I''ve created a module directory and files:

   /etc/puppet/modules/classes/ntp/manifests/init.pp
   /etc/puppet/modules/classes/ntp/files/ntp.conf


/etc/puppet/puppet.conf:

[main]
logdir=/var/log/puppet
vardir=/var/lib/puppet
rundir=/var/run
ssldir=/var/lib/puppet/ssl

[puppetmasterd]
templatedir=/var/lib/puppet/templates
modulepath=$confdir/modules:/usr/share/puppet/modules


/etc/puppet/manifests/site.pp:

# import the server classes
import "classes/ntp"


node default {
   include ntp
}



When I start puppetmaster on the server I get the following in the syslog

Sep 6 09:25:55 athena puppetmasterd[17030]: Could not parse; using old 
configuration: No file(s) found for import of ''classes/ntp'' at
/etc/puppet/manifests/site.pp:10
Sep 6 09:25:55 athena puppetmasterd[17045]: Reopening log files
Sep 6 09:25:55 athena puppetmasterd[17045]: Starting Puppet server version 
0.23.2


Similarly when I run puppetd on the client I get:

anet22:~# puppetd --server athena.rsc.raytheon.com --verbose
notice: Starting Puppet client version 0.23.2
err: Could not retrieve configuration: Cannot connect to server and there 
is no cached configuration


I''m sure I''m doing something really stupid, and I''ve
tried a lot of
things, but I can''t seem to get over this hump. So any advice would be 
greatly appreciated.

On Sep 6, 2007, at 11:31 AM, Steve Witt wrote:
>    I''ve created a module directory and files:
>
>    /etc/puppet/modules/classes/ntp/manifests/init.pp
>    /etc/puppet/modules/classes/ntp/files/ntp.conf
When organizing your configurations, there are two places where  
Puppet will look for manifests:  The directory that your site.pp file  
is in (normally something like /etc/puppet/manifests), and the  
modulepath.

When looking in the manifests directory, Puppet will import files  
relative to the site.pp file.  So, if you had /etc/puppet/manifests/ 
classes/ntp.pp, then Puppet could import that with ''import
"classes/
ntp"'' in your site.pp.

However, when looking for manifests in your module path, Puppet will  
take the path you give it, replace the first ''/'' with
''/manifests/'',
and look there.  So, in the case you''ve provided, Puppet will look  
in /etc/puppet/modules/classes/manifests/ntp.pp.

Try moving everything in the ''classes'' directory into the
modules
directory itself.  So, in this case, you should have /etc/puppet/ 
modules/ntp, which should contain manifests/init.pp and files/ntp.conf.

Make sense?

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On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Luke Kanies wrote:
> Try moving everything in the ''classes'' directory into the
modules
> directory itself.  So, in this case, you should have /etc/puppet/
> modules/ntp, which should contain manifests/init.pp and files/ntp.conf.
OK, this worked, thanks.
>
> Make sense?
I''m not sure :), but I''ll build on the above and figure it
out. I''m
just at that point where I don''t understand it enough to apply the 
examples in the wiki. Thanks a lot for the quick response.

On Sep 6, 2007, at 3:57 PM, Steve Witt wrote:
> I''m not sure :), but I''ll build on the above and figure
it out. I''m
> just at that point where I don''t understand it enough to apply the
> examples in the wiki. Thanks a lot for the quick response.
That''s the first time I''ve seen anyone have that problem, but
it
looks like the docs weren''t clear enough.

It''d be great if you could provide some recommendations on how to  
clarify the documentation, once you understand it.

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