Hi, Freeze is coming closer, and it starts more and more to look like there will be no (complete, especially lacking dom0 Kernel patches) Xen support in lenny if nothing changes, like: 2) Some people come together and try to work out the needed patches for the newest Kernels and make them available in Debian. (I don't know what's the newest available patchset, would be interesting to check what the other doistributions do and have...) 1) The Kernel team admits and exception from the rule of "only one single kernel version in Debian". -> Making this exception could probably made easier by some people comitting to help support such an (hypothetical) additional version. As I am not a kernel hacker myself, so I am not sure which is harder in terms of work to be done to develop and maintain the stuff - 2) is most likely harder from a communication/organizational point of view, and from the work to persuade the Release Managers to let such an additional Kernel package in. And 1) is the most futureproof thing to do, for sure. What I know is, it would be a pity and a loss for many users, and for the reputation of Debian not to ship Xen with Lenny. And I want to do everything I can to prevent that. So, what can be done to get this sorted - any ideas, and opinions what would be needed to do, and where we could get started? Henning
On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 12:37 +0100, Henning Sprang wrote:> Hi, > Freeze is coming closer, and it starts more and more to look like there > will be no (complete, especially lacking dom0 Kernel patches) Xen > support in lenny if nothing changes, like: > > 2) Some people come together and try to work out the needed patches for > the newest Kernels and make them available in Debian. (I don't know > what's the newest available patchset, would be interesting to check what > the other doistributions do and have...) > > 1) The Kernel team admits and exception from the rule of "only one > single kernel version in Debian". > -> Making this exception could probably made easier by some people > comitting to help support such an (hypothetical) additional version. > > As I am not a kernel hacker myself, so I am not sure which is harder in > terms of work to be done to develop and maintain the stuff - 2) is most > likely harder from a communication/organizational point of view, and > from the work to persuade the Release Managers to let such an additional > Kernel package in. And 1) is the most futureproof thing to do, for sure.BTW: I changed the order to sort them by priority, but changed the numbers only in the references in the last paragraph. To make it clear: when mentioning the numbers in the last paragraph, I mean the actual Ordering :)
On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 12:37:30PM +0100, Henning Sprang wrote:> Hi, > Freeze is coming closer, and it starts more and more to look like there > will be no (complete, especially lacking dom0 Kernel patches) Xen > support in lenny if nothing changes, like: > > 2) Some people come together and try to work out the needed patches for > the newest Kernels and make them available in Debian. (I don't know > what's the newest available patchset, would be interesting to check what > the other doistributions do and have...) >Basicly it looks like the latest well working Xen-kernel patches are for 2.6.18 kernel (included with xen.org releases) and shipped with rhel5/centos5 and debian etch 4.0. RedHat guys are working to get all the (missing) Xen features ported to vanilla/Linus (kernel.org) kernel and submitted and integrated upstream. This work is being done at the moment, and will be in Fedora 9 this spring. Currently these new patches are for 2.6.24 kernel, but they're still in an alpha/beta stage. -- Pasi
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Henning Sprang wrote:> 2) Some people come together and try to work out the needed patches for > the newest Kernels and make them available in Debian. (I don't know > what's the newest available patchset, would be interesting to check what > the other doistributions do and have...)It'd at least be very helpful to update the patches to 2.6.18 to the current ones shipped with whatever version of the hypervisor Lenny ships with. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | nate carlson | natecars at natecarlson.com | http://www.natecarlson.com | | depriving some poor village of its idiot since 1981 | ------------------------------------------------------------------------