Pkg xen devel - Aug 2006 - pkg-xen team dead?

Hi folks

With the lack of responses to my restructuring the last weeks, it looks
like pkg-xen is dead.

Now, what to do? My favorite is to merge it into the kernel repository
where I have my infrastructure (archive and autobuilders for snapshots
for example) to properly work on it.

Bastian

-- 
No one wants war.
		-- Kirk, "Errand of Mercy", stardate 3201.7
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On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 05:38:40PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:

Hi! ;)
> With the lack of responses to my restructuring the last weeks, it looks
> like pkg-xen is dead.
> 
> Now, what to do? My favorite is to merge it into the kernel repository
> where I have my infrastructure (archive and autobuilders for snapshots
> for example) to properly work on it.
> 
As I told you on irc your restructuring started when I was away on vacation and
was pretty massive, so I still haven't had time to look at it! I'm still
interested to work on xen and I think we should at least check what other people
here want to do, maybe a bit later after summer has ended! ;)

Anyway for me it's not a big issue to have it here or in another svn
repository,
except of course that since it's already here we might want to think if
there's
really a reason to move it... The infrastructure for autobuilding the kernel and
xen is different anyway, isn't it? So wouldn't it be the same if we
autobuilt
this repo? ;)

Guido

On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 05:38:40PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
> With the lack of responses to my restructuring the last weeks, it looks
> like pkg-xen is dead.
> 
> Now, what to do? My favorite is to merge it into the kernel repository
> where I have my infrastructure (archive and autobuilders for snapshots
> for example) to properly work on it.
I thought this had already been discussed at length and it was decided
that Xen (minus kernel patch) should live in its own project?

As I understand it there are several other active maintainers working
on Xen in pkg-xen (at least Guido Trotter and Julien Danjou) - would
moving it make it harder for them to work on it? Logically speaking I
can't see that Xen belongs in the kernel repository; most of the
packaging challenges are not directly related to the kernel itself but
the userspace tools. I've not personally managed to have any time to
work on the Xen packages yet but I'm likely to be able to in the future,
and needing to be in the kernel team would probably make things harder.

Do other kernel team members have any opinions on wanting Xen in the
kernel project?

Cheers,

Dominic.

-- 
Dominic Hargreaves | http://www.larted.org.uk/~dom/
PGP key 5178E2A5 from the.earth.li (keyserver,web,email)

I've been out of the loop for awhile as I recently moved cross-country and
started a new job so I've had limited time and resources at the moment. I do
not thing that the team is dead as it was discussed in quite length
previously that Xen should be kept separate from the kernel. I still believe
this is true now and will continue to be so until such time that Xen code
becomes part of the main upstream kernel releases. Before that happens I'm
sure we'll see the Xen source code split so that tools/application code is
separate from the kernel code at which point the tools/apps can be
maintained by the team and the kernel team can maintain the kernel portions.

Regards,
Jeremy

On 8/30/06, Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org>
wrote:
>
> Hi folks
>
> With the lack of responses to my restructuring the last weeks, it looks
> like pkg-xen is dead.
>
> Now, what to do? My favorite is to merge it into the kernel repository
> where I have my infrastructure (archive and autobuilders for snapshots
> for example) to properly work on it.
>
> Bastian
>
> --
> No one wants war.
>                 -- Kirk, "Errand of Mercy", stardate 3201.7
>
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