Prior to this my desktop box running Ubuntu 8.04, mutt 1.5.17, and exim4 4.69-2 wouldn''t send to remote servers but my laptop, running the same software and configured identically, would. Now my laptop has stopped also. There have been no changes to any configuration.The only way I can send email is with Alpine, which doesn''t use exim4. The confusing thing is that the log says: 2010-03-28 13:42:58 1NvzJy-0008En-9j <= holtzm at localhost U=holtzm P=local S=1177 id=20100328204258.GA31613 at cox.net 2010-03-28 13:42:59 1NvzJy-0008En-9j => holtzm at sonic.net R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost H=smtp.west.cox.net [68.6.19.4] X=TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32 DN="C=US,ST=Georgia,L=Alpharetta,O=Cox Communications,CN=smtp.west.cox.net" 2010-03-28 13:42:59 1NvzJy-0008En-9j Completed This is when I sent a test message to myself at another ISP that I have an account with and which never showed up in my Inbox. Does "Completed" mean that the message was successfully sent to sonic.net? It would appear so. Any help appreciated. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 "If you think you''re getting free lunch, check the price of the beer"
Hi, On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 10:56:24PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:> The confusing thing is that the log says: > > 2010-03-28 13:42:58 1NvzJy-0008En-9j <= holtzm at localhost U=holtzm > P=local S=1177 id=20100328204258.GA31613 at cox.net > 2010-03-28 13:42:59 1NvzJy-0008En-9j => holtzm at sonic.net R=smarthost > T=remote_smtp_smarthost H=smtp.west.cox.net [68.6.19.4] > X=TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32 DN="C=US,ST=Georgia,L=Alpharetta,O=Cox > Communications,CN=smtp.west.cox.net" > 2010-03-28 13:42:59 1NvzJy-0008En-9j Completed > > This is when I sent a test message to myself at another ISP that I have > an account with and which never showed up in my Inbox. Does "Completed" > mean that the message was successfully sent to sonic.net? It would > appear so.As soon as the => line appears, exim has successfully delivered the message to the host mentioned there, here "smtp.west.cox.net", and received the remote host''s confirmation that it has taken responsibility for the message. I cannot conclude what happened to your message, but it didn''t happen on your box. Your exim did its job just fine. I can only guess that cox.net (or some system further downstream) doesn''t like your envelope sender holtzm at localhost and silently drops the message. You may want to install the swaks package and test which messages are actually delivered and which aren''t. Greetings Marc -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | "I don''t trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things." Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 3221 2323190
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010, Marc Haber wrote:> As soon as the => line appears, exim has successfully delivered the > message to the host mentioned there, here "smtp.west.cox.net", and > received the remote host''s confirmation that it has taken > responsibility for the message. > > I cannot conclude what happened to your message, but it didn''t happen > on your box. Your exim did its job just fine.That''s good to know. It makes me feel somewhat better.> > I can only guess that cox.net (or some system further downstream) > doesn''t like your envelope sender holtzm at localhost and silently drops > the message.Could you expand on the envelope you refer to? I haven''t run across that before. Cox is normally clueless ("gee dude, lets check your settings" *ack*) and level two is little better ("we don''t see a problem on our end") I guess I''m locked into Alpine, at least temporarily, until I can find what is dropping/blocking the mail sent thru exim4.> > You may want to install the swaks package and test which messages are > actually delivered and which aren''t.It would seem to me that the posts that show up are delivered and the ones that don''t show up aren''t. What will swaks do beyond that? Will it help pinpoint the problem location? What am a I missing? Thanks for the pointers. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 "If you think you''re getting free lunch, check the price of the beer"
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:43:22AM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010, Marc Haber wrote: >> I can only guess that cox.net (or some system further downstream) >> doesn''t like your envelope sender holtzm at localhost and silently drops >> the message. > > Could you expand on the envelope you refer to? I haven''t run across that > before.2010-03-28 13:42:58 1NvzJy-0008En-9j <= holtzm at localhost U=holtzm P=local S=1177 id=20100328204258.GA31613 at cox.net Your exim is sending out your messages with an envelope sender of holtzm at localhost. The message envelope is something rather fundamental in SMTP. The wikipedia article on SMTP does a reasonable good job to explain this.> Cox is normally clueless ("gee dude, lets check your settings" *ack*) > and level two is little better ("we don''t see a problem on our end") > > I guess I''m locked into Alpine, at least temporarily, until I can find > what is dropping/blocking the mail sent thru exim4. > >> You may want to install the swaks package and test which messages are >> actually delivered and which aren''t. > > It would seem to me that the posts that show up are delivered and the > ones that don''t show up aren''t. What will swaks do beyond that? Will it > help pinpoint the problem location? What am a I missing?swaks makes it easy to send out test message with different headers and/or envelope and might assist in finding out when messages are not passed on by some system further down the pipe and what needs to change in them to get through. Some more-than-basic SMTP knowledge is required though. Greetings Marc -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | "I don''t trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things." Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 3221 2323190