Hi all,
According to the "Instant Windows" recipe, an AMD Opteron Rev F or
later
CPU is required to run Xen. Is the Opetern 152 CPU in the Ultra 20 OK?
Here''s the output of psrinfo from my Ultra 20, if that helps:
rich@marrakesh4103# psrinfo -vp
The physical processor has 1 virtual processor (0)
x86 (AuthenticAMD 20F71 family 15 model 39 step 1 clock 2613 MHz)
AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 152
(Hopefully the "F" in 20F71 means yes.)
TIA,
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Rich Teer wrote:> Hi all, > > According to the "Instant Windows" recipe, an AMD Opteron Rev F or later > CPU is required to run Xen. Is the Opetern 152 CPU in the Ultra 20 OK? > > Here''s the output of psrinfo from my Ultra 20, if that helps: > > rich@marrakesh4103# psrinfo -vp > The physical processor has 1 virtual processor (0) > x86 (AuthenticAMD 20F71 family 15 model 39 step 1 clock 2613 MHz) > AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 152 > > (Hopefully the "F" in 20F71 means yes.)Try compiling & running this app... It will tell you for sure. http://blogs.sun.com/JoeBonasera/entry/detecting_hardware_virtualization_support_for MRJ -- Mark Johnson <mark.johnson@sun.com> Sun Microsystems, Inc. (781) 442-0869
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007, Mark Johnson wrote:> Try compiling & running this app... It will tell > you for sure. > http://blogs.sun.com/JoeBonasera/entry/detecting_hardware_virtualization_support_forThanks for the pointer. Alas, I get a "no", so I guess I won''t be playing with Xen on my Ultra 20... :-( Oh well, -- Rich Teer, SCSA, SCNA, SCSECA, OGB member CEO, My Online Home Inventory URLs: http://www.rite-group.com/rich http://www.myonlinehomeinventory.com
Rich Teer wrote:> On Fri, 5 Oct 2007, Mark Johnson wrote: > > >> Try compiling & running this app... It will tell >> you for sure. >> http://blogs.sun.com/JoeBonasera/entry/detecting_hardware_virtualization_support_for >> > > Thanks for the pointer. Alas, I get a "no", so I guess I won''t > be playing with Xen on my Ultra 20... :-( > > Oh well, > >Well you can play with Xen, just not Windows on Xen :-( If you want to run a paravitualised (or modified to run on Xen) OS like Solaris or Linux you can still do that Chris
On Sat, 6 Oct 2007, Chris Beal wrote: Hi Chris! Bit early in the morning for you in the UK, isn''t it?!> Well you can play with Xen, just not Windows on Xen :-( If you want to run a > paravitualised (or modified to run on Xen) OS like Solaris or Linux you can > still do thatThanks for the info, but alas, the intent was to try running Windoze. My machine at work is Windoze-on-Xen capable, but it''d be nice to play with it at home first... Cheers, -- Rich Teer, SCSA, SCNA, SCSECA, OGB member CEO, My Online Home Inventory URLs: http://www.rite-group.com/rich http://www.myonlinehomeinventory.com
Rich Teer wrote:> On Sat, 6 Oct 2007, Chris Beal wrote: > > Hi Chris! > > Bit early in the morning for you in the UK, isn''t it?! > >I''m in Santa Clara at the moment - back to the UK tomorrow>> Well you can play with Xen, just not Windows on Xen :-( If you want to run a >> paravitualised (or modified to run on Xen) OS like Solaris or Linux you can >> still do that >> > > Thanks for the info, but alas, the intent was to try running Windoze. > My machine at work is Windoze-on-Xen capable, but it''d be nice to play > with it at home first... > >Shame, but yes that''s one of the requirements. Let me know how you get on - I am particularly interested in how people want to use this "windows on solaris on Xen" capability Chris
U20 can do xen just cannot do HVM(window) I have U20 that can do xVM for most linux regards Rich Teer wrote:> On Fri, 5 Oct 2007, Mark Johnson wrote: > > >> Try compiling & running this app... It will tell >> you for sure. >> http://blogs.sun.com/JoeBonasera/entry/detecting_hardware_virtualization_support_for >> > > Thanks for the pointer. Alas, I get a "no", so I guess I won''t > be playing with Xen on my Ultra 20... :-( > > Oh well, > >
On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 05:45:40AM -0400, LaoTsao(Dr. Tsao) wrote:> U20 can do xen just cannot do HVM(window) > I have U20 that can do xVM for most linux > regardsA U20 with a 1200 series Opteron should have SVM shouldn''t it?
U20 use 1xx rev-e u20 m2 use 1xxx rev -f hth hung-sheng tsao, Ph.D sr, system eng DC Ambassador 1877 3190460 400 atrium dr. Somerset nj 08873 - original message - Subject: Re: [xen-discuss] Xen on an Ultra 20? From: David Edmondson <dme@sun.com> Date: 10/08/2007 7:28 AM On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 05:45:40AM -0400, LaoTsao(Dr. Tsao) wrote:> U20 can do xen just cannot do HVM(window) > I have U20 that can do xVM for most linux > regardsA U20 with a 1200 series Opteron should have SVM shouldn''t it? _______________________________________________ xen-discuss mailing list xen-discuss@opensolaris.org
Hi Rich, Unfortunately not. You need an Ultra 20 M2 in order to run fully virtualized guests. Your Ultra 20 will run Xen, but only PV (paravirtualized) guest domains; Xen can''t run HVM domains without SVM/VTx hardware support. - Russ Rich Teer wrote:> Hi all, > > According to the "Instant Windows" recipe, an AMD Opteron Rev F or later > CPU is required to run Xen. Is the Opetern 152 CPU in the Ultra 20 OK? > > Here''s the output of psrinfo from my Ultra 20, if that helps: > > rich@marrakesh4103# psrinfo -vp > The physical processor has 1 virtual processor (0) > x86 (AuthenticAMD 20F71 family 15 model 39 step 1 clock 2613 MHz) > AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 152 > > (Hopefully the "F" in 20F71 means yes.) > > TIA, >-- ----------------------------------------------------- Russ Blaine | Solaris Kernel | russell.blaine@sun.com
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Russ Blaine wrote:> Unfortunately not. You need an Ultra 20 M2 in order to run fully virtualized > guests. Your Ultra 20 will run Xen, but only PV (paravirtualized) guest > domains; Xen can''t run HVM domains without SVM/VTx hardware support.Thanks for a definitive answer, even if it is no. I guess the next question is: short of replacing the box, is there a way of putting an HVM-capable Opteron processor in my Ultra 20? Are the newer Opterons pin-compatible with the old ones? -- Rich Teer, SCSA, SCNA, SCSECA, OGB member CEO, My Online Home Inventory URLs: http://www.rite-group.com/rich http://www.myonlinehomeinventory.com
Rich Teer wrote:> On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Russ Blaine wrote: > >> Unfortunately not. You need an Ultra 20 M2 in order to run fully virtualized >> guests. Your Ultra 20 will run Xen, but only PV (paravirtualized) guest >> domains; Xen can''t run HVM domains without SVM/VTx hardware support. > > Thanks for a definitive answer, even if it is no. > > I guess the next question is: short of replacing the box, is there a way > of putting an HVM-capable Opteron processor in my Ultra 20? Are the newer > Opterons pin-compatible with the old ones?No. I believe the original U20''s have socket-939 and I think the U20 M2 uses socket AM2. You can google around to see what''s available for socket 939, but I don''t think AMD produced any revF cpus (the first rev with SVM support) in the 939 form factor. rob
On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 13:33 -0700, Rob Johnston wrote:> Rich Teer wrote: > > On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Russ Blaine wrote: > > > >> Unfortunately not. You need an Ultra 20 M2 in order to run fully virtualized > >> guests. Your Ultra 20 will run Xen, but only PV (paravirtualized) guest > >> domains; Xen can''t run HVM domains without SVM/VTx hardware support. > > > > Thanks for a definitive answer, even if it is no. > > > > I guess the next question is: short of replacing the box, is there a way > > of putting an HVM-capable Opteron processor in my Ultra 20? Are the newer > > Opterons pin-compatible with the old ones? > > No. I believe the original U20''s have socket-939 and I think the U20 M2 > uses socket AM2. You can google around to see what''s available for > socket 939, but I don''t think AMD produced any revF cpus (the first rev > with SVM support) in the 939 form factor. > > rob > _______________________________________________ > xen-discuss mailing list > xen-discuss@opensolaris.orgNope, no RevF for Socket 939 or 940. The AMD-V stuff is available only in 2nd and 3rd generation Opterons (and, I think, same gen Athlon64). Which means only those with DDR2 and AM2 or SocketF. It would be nice to get a AMD-V chip for Socket 939/940, but it doesn''t appear on AMD''s roadmap. Only the M2-variants of the Ultra20/40, x4100/x4200/x4600/x2100/x2200 have the newer chips. Non-M2 versions of these, plus the v20z/v40z/w1100z/w2100z use the older 1st-gen Opterons. -- Erik Trimble Java System Support Mailstop: usca14-102 Phone: x17195 Santa Clara, CA Timezone: US/Pacific (GMT-0800)