Roger Price writes:> On Thu, 1 Dec 2022, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > >> And even now, weeks after a Fedora release, that bug is not blowing up with >> everyone, and their uncle, complaining that nut is completely non- >> functional? So, what, there are less than a dozen people out there who are >> using Fedora and a non-APC UPS, for which nut is, pretty much, the only >> option? >> >> This one's a head-scratcher. > > I wonder what percentage of Linux users have a UPS? I suspect the figure is > real low. Most people trust their public power supply, and live in an area > with little lightning. Why spend the money?I think it's because most people are using laptops rather than desktops. Laptops have their built-in UPS. A spike will probably just fry the wall wart and not damage the laptop, and they'll just replace the wall wart. Still, you'd think there'll be more than a dozen people noticing that nut in Fedora hasn't worked for over two months. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/nut-upsuser/attachments/20221202/89817ee9/attachment.sig>
On 12/2/22 07:59, Sam Varshavchik wrote:> Roger Price writes: > >> On Thu, 1 Dec 2022, Sam Varshavchik wrote: >> >>> And even now, weeks after a Fedora release, that bug is not blowing >>> up with everyone, and their uncle, complaining that nut is completely >>> non-functional? So, what, there are less than a dozen people out >>> there who are using Fedora and a non-APC UPS, for which nut is, >>> pretty much, the only option? >>> >>> This one's a head-scratcher. >> >> I wonder what percentage of Linux users have a UPS?? I suspect the >> figure is real low.? Most people trust their public power supply, and >> live in an area with little lightning.? Why spend the money? > > I think it's because most people are using laptops rather than desktops. > Laptops have their built-in UPS. A spike will probably just fry the wall > wart and not damage the laptop, and they'll just replace the wall wart. > > Still, you'd think there'll be more than a dozen people noticing that > nut in Fedora hasn't worked for over two months. >While the debian bullseye version is working just fine. Yet...> > _______________________________________________ > Nut-upsuser mailing list > Nut-upsuser at alioth-lists.debian.net > https://alioth-lists.debian.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nut-upsuserCheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/>
My thoughts ... First, this is only a problem in Fedora 37. On Fedora 36 it works. Second, Fedora 37 has only been out for about three weeks. I bet adoption is still ramping up. Third - A good point about many people using laptops and so not needing a UPS. Even so, there are millions of systems running Fedora. You would think more people would have noticed. However - The only reason I noticed is because I set up logwatch to include output from upsc in the daily report. When that went missing, I went hunting. If I did not have that daily logwatch, I would never have noticed. It would not surprise me if a lot of people are having a problem and don't know it. And another thing - This machine runs XFCE which by default includes a battery monitor in the system tray. That battery monitor works correctly regardless of the status of nut. Fourth - There is an open bug report at RedHat about this. The Fedora 37 package version 2.8.0-5 is supposed to have a fix. The comments report other problems with the package, hence it is not yet in the testing repository. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2127269 ==============Bill Gee On 12/2/22 06:58, Sam Varshavchik wrote:> Roger Price writes: > >> On Thu, 1 Dec 2022, Sam Varshavchik wrote: >> >>> And even now, weeks after a Fedora release, that bug is not blowing >>> up with everyone, and their uncle, complaining that nut is completely >>> non-functional? So, what, there are less than a dozen people out >>> there who are using Fedora and a non-APC UPS, for which nut is, >>> pretty much, the only option? >>> >>> This one's a head-scratcher. >> >> I wonder what percentage of Linux users have a UPS?? I suspect the >> figure is real low.? Most people trust their public power supply, and >> live in an area with little lightning.? Why spend the money? > > I think it's because most people are using laptops rather than desktops. > Laptops have their built-in UPS. A spike will probably just fry the wall > wart and not damage the laptop, and they'll just replace the wall wart. > > Still, you'd think there'll be more than a dozen people noticing that > nut in Fedora hasn't worked for over two months. > > > _______________________________________________ > Nut-upsuser mailing list > Nut-upsuser at alioth-lists.debian.net > https://alioth-lists.debian.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nut-upsuser