Hi, We have 2 UPS Chloride 80 NET 120 ( a black and white one ) in our datacenter. Could you please tell me if it is possible to use upsmon or other free solution with these two UPS for shuting down servers during electrical lost power before battery crash . Beet regards, Roger -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/nut-upsdev/attachments/20150528/41e04443/attachment.html>
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Zena Bingani <rogerndo at gmail.com> wrote:> Hi, > > We have 2 UPS Chloride 80 NET 120 ( a black and white one ) in our > datacenter. > > Could you please tell me if it is possible to use upsmon or other free > solution with these two UPS for shuting down servers during electrical lost > power before battery crashUnclear. There is only one entry for Chloride in our compatibility list: http://www.networkupstools.org/stable-hcl.html?manufacturer=Chloride Do you know the name of the protocol that it uses, or the name of the Windows monitoring software the manufacturer recommends? -- - Charles Lepple
Chloride Power doesn't exist as a company anymore, Emerson bought them in 2010. That particular Chloride UPS in the database was replaced with the Liebert line of desktop UPSes after that acquisition. Chloride Power was dabbling in the desktop market and after the acquisition Emerson shut all that down because they already were selling desktop UPSes under the Liebert name, due to their acquiring Liebert back in '87 after Liebert's founder died of old age. Emerson kept the Chloride Power brand for large scale UPSes since CP was well known in Europe. Liebert is the brand used for desktop UPSes. The 2 UPS lines have absolutely nothing at all in common. The Net 120 he has is a big-assed 120Kw UPS for a datacenter. From the marketing slick, here: http://www.emersonnetworkpower.com/en-EMEA/Products/ACPower/Documents/Chloride-80-NET/MKA4L0UK80XL.pdf "...The UPS offers the following standard communication features: Voltage-free contact ports Digital inputs and outputs Two serial ports and LAN connection Two internal slots for LIFE and connectivity options. Hardware Connectivity ManageUPS NET ensures the monitoring and control of the networked UPS, through the TCP/IP protocol. Two different options permit: The integration of Chloride UPS with Building Monitoring and Automation Systems via MODBUS RTU, MODBUS/TCP or JBUS protocols The monitoring of environmental conditions where the UPS systems are installed Essentially, what is going on here (in my guesstimate) is that Zena found these 2 120 Kw UPSes for real cheap, bought them, got them all in and running and was all happy - then contacted Emerson and started pooping bricks at the prices when Emerson told them "you will have to buy a service contract from us for the software for that UPS plus bend over for the licensing for the software - and by the way where the heck's your generator and $500-a-pop managed PDUs" Essentially this isn't a device your supposed to use in a datacenter with no generator. Your supposed to have an Emerson transfer switch, a generator, and this UPS all connected with their Trellis Site Manager software and it will keep your datacenter running for you, with plenty of blinking lights as long as you fork over the moola for them to come in and massage the system every month for you and slap your hand if you try touching anything. You ought to look at the marketing slick on this one the front panel has enough indicators, buttons, and blinky lights to fly a spaceship much less a UPS. Anyway, very likely if the unit he has has a network port on it there's a MIB somewhere buried on the Emerson site that he can use if he can glad-hand the Emerson support people into giving it to him. If he can figure out the front panel then I'd say, pick a day when you can shut everything off and have at it with snmpwalk, you probably will figure it out. Failing that, he can plug the dry contacts into a PeeCee port and use a dumb-UPS driver with NUT. Ted On 5/28/2015 7:06 PM, Charles Lepple wrote:> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Zena Bingani<rogerndo at gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> We have 2 UPS Chloride 80 NET 120 ( a black and white one ) in our >> datacenter. >> >> Could you please tell me if it is possible to use upsmon or other free >> solution with these two UPS for shuting down servers during electrical lost >> power before battery crash > > Unclear. There is only one entry for Chloride in our compatibility list: > > http://www.networkupstools.org/stable-hcl.html?manufacturer=Chloride > > Do you know the name of the protocol that it uses, or the name of the > Windows monitoring software the manufacturer recommends? >
Please use reply-all to keep the discussion on the list. On May 29, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Zena Bingani <rogerndo at gmail.com> wrote:> Hi, > > Yes my two 120 kva UPS ( Chloride 80 Net 120 ) are newer than the entry in the compatibility list. > > Their windows monitoring software is Chloride MopUps P/R. > > It uses these protocols : RCCMD ( that is more interesting ) and MopUps ( their Own protocol ). > > Roger >That seems consistent with the brochure Ted found. Those protocols don't sound familiar, though.> > > > > 2015-05-29 4:06 GMT+02:00 Charles Lepple <clepple at gmail.com>: >> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Zena Bingani <rogerndo at gmail.com> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > We have 2 UPS Chloride 80 NET 120 ( a black and white one ) in our >> > datacenter. >> > >> > Could you please tell me if it is possible to use upsmon or other free >> > solution with these two UPS for shuting down servers during electrical lost >> > power before battery crash >> >> Unclear. There is only one entry for Chloride in our compatibility list: >> >> http://www.networkupstools.org/stable-hcl.html?manufacturer=Chloride >> >> Do you know the name of the protocol that it uses, or the name of the >> Windows monitoring software the manufacturer recommends? >> >> -- >> - Charles Lepple >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/nut-upsdev/attachments/20150529/ead6ed4e/attachment.html>
Hi All, If the Chloride 80 Net 120 UPSes have the ManageUPS Net Adaper P-Series or VP series cards plugged into them, then according to the documentation for these cards, here: http://www.criticalpowersupplies.co.uk/filedata/0000/0268/ManageUPS_vp_p-series-user_s_guide.pdf these UPSes are SNMP manageable, using RFC1628 Appendix B of that document has the relevant MIB entries. See the following in the NUT documentation http://www.networkupstools.org/docs/man/snmp-ups.html And please let us know if it works so it can be added to the database of known UPSes. Also let us know if it works in auto mode or if you have to specify the ietf mib. Ted On 5/29/2015 11:09 AM, Charles Lepple wrote:> Please use reply-all to keep the discussion on the list. > > On May 29, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Zena Bingani <rogerndo at gmail.com > <mailto:rogerndo at gmail.com>> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Yes my two 120 kva UPS ( Chloride 80 Net 120 ) are newer than the >> entry in the compatibility list. >> >> Their windows monitoring software is Chloride MopUps P/R. >> >> It uses these protocols : RCCMD ( that is more interesting ) and >> MopUps ( their Own protocol ). >> >> Roger >> > > That seems consistent with the brochure Ted found. > > Those protocols don't sound familiar, though. > >> >> >> >> >> 2015-05-29 4:06 GMT+02:00 Charles Lepple <clepple at gmail.com >> <mailto:clepple at gmail.com>>: >> >> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Zena Bingani <rogerndo at gmail.com >> <mailto:rogerndo at gmail.com>> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > We have 2 UPS Chloride 80 NET 120 ( a black and white one ) in our >> > datacenter. >> > >> > Could you please tell me if it is possible to use upsmon or >> other free >> > solution with these two UPS for shuting down servers during >> electrical lost >> > power before battery crash >> >> Unclear. There is only one entry for Chloride in our compatibility >> list: >> >> http://www.networkupstools.org/stable-hcl.html?manufacturer=Chloride >> >> Do you know the name of the protocol that it uses, or the name of the >> Windows monitoring software the manufacturer recommends? >> >> -- >> - Charles Lepple >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Nut-upsdev mailing list > Nut-upsdev at lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nut-upsdev