Nut upsdev - Jul 2008 - Feedback and help in porting the NUT sysV init script to upstart

hi there,

first, kudos to Scott. You guy rock with this revolutionizing (and so logic)
idea ;-)

next, a personal point of view about the lack of upstream adoption of
upstart:
I wanted to provide an upstart script for NUT for some time, but never found
enough matching example to do so.
the embedded scripts only address inittab, and the replacement-initscripts
are unreachable (see below) and far too basic for being really helpful!
if you want a massive adoption, provide some "real world" examples for
upstreams, really ;-)

so, a mutual help in getting the NUT init script ported would both help you
and me. good deal ;-)
btwn I've included the upstart "support" in NUT 2.4 roadmap.
I've attached the original Debian NUT script, along with a lazy and drafty
port attempt.
note that I'm currently giving some reflexion cycles on optimizing NUT
integration wrt init (ex: no need to clean stop daemons upon standard
shutdown). feedback, comment and help welcome... I can also give some more
details of the problematic.

another point (possibly already addressed): you should also take a look at
the HAL replacement (DeviceKit) since it should (must?) somehow impact
upstart (at least through signaling), or improve it?!
I will soon post on the new dk mailing a proposition for the power
management. if you also have some feedback there...

last note, there is a broken link on
http://upstart.ubuntu.com/faq.html#example-jobs-what
should point?
https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~scott/upstart/replacement-initscripts

cheers,
Arnaud
-- 
Linux / Unix Expert R&D - MGE Office Protection Systems -
http://www.mgeops.com
Network UPS Tools (NUT) Project Leader - http://www.networkupstools.org/
Debian Developer - http://people.debian.org/~aquette/
Free Software Developer - http://arnaud.quette.free.fr/
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On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 23:09 +0200, Arnaud Quette wrote:
> next, a personal point of view about the lack of upstream adoption of
> upstart:
> I wanted to provide an upstart script for NUT for some time, but never
> found enough matching example to do so.
> the embedded scripts only address inittab, and the
> replacement-initscripts are unreachable (see below) and far too basic
> for being really helpful!
> if you want a massive adoption, provide some "real world"
examples for
> upstreams, really ;-)
> 
Upstart is not yet finished, and the job definition format undergoes
incompatbile changes with each minor release.

For this reason, I would not recommend migrating your service to using
an Upstart job at this time.
> another point (possibly already addressed): you should also take a
> look at the HAL replacement (DeviceKit) since it should (must?)
> somehow impact upstart (at least through signaling), or improve it?!
> I will soon post on the new dk mailing a proposition for the power
> management. if you also have some feedback there...
> 
The DeviceKit author and I are friends, are very much in communication.

Scott
-- 
Have you ever, ever felt like this?
Had strange things happen?  Are you going round the twist?
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