On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 23:01:57 -0400 Ilia Mirkin <imirkin at alum.mit.edu> dijo:>On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 10:41 PM, John Jason Jordan ><johnxj at comcast.net> wrote: >> Ubuntu 13.10 x86_64 up to date on laptop with nVidia GeForce GTX >> 765M. >> >> There were some updates that I applied last week, and ever since I >> have missing text in some menus and lists. It is especially bad in >> Claws Mail and LibreOffice Writer. However, text appears correctly; >> it's just the menus where the text has disappeared. For example, >> when writing in LO Writer the part of the window where the typed >> text appears is fine; but the menus along the top have just --- >> instead of the word (File, Edit, etc.), and if I click on one of the >> --- the drop-down shows only a -- to the left of the item. None of >> the style names appear in the styles toolbar, nor does the name of >> the font that is in use. >> >> After the update I have: >> >> libdrm-nouveau2 2.4.46-1-ubuntu1 >> xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:1.0.9-2ubuntu1 >> >> This computer has never had the nVidia proprietary drivers installed. >> Nor have I ever tried to use the extra features (bumblebee, etc.). >> There are no error messages in Xorg.0.log. >> >> I could use some suggestions for where to look to fix this, or how to >> file a bug report.>Did this work fine before? If so, when was before?This is a System76 (Linux computer seller) Bonobo Extreme that I bought early last December. It came with straight Ubuntu, but I wiped it and installed Xubuntu instead (can't stand Unity). I just did the defaults, which installed the nouveau driver. A long time ago on another computer I installed the nVidia proprietary driver and it created a mess, so I was delighted that everything worked perfectly with the nouveau driver. A couple of weeks ago the Update Manager announced that there were some updates. I do not recall exactly what packages were involved, but I remember that some of them involved nouveau. About a week ago I finally installed them, and that is when the problem began.>What kernel version are you using? What mesa version do you have >installed?jjj at Devil-Bonobo:~$ uname -a Linux Devil-Bonobo 3.11.0-20-generic #34-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 1 20:40:25 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Searching in Synaptic on 'mesa' yielded the following: mesa-common-dev 9.2.1-1ubuntu3 libgl1-mesa-dev 9.2.1-1ubuntu3 linglu1-mesa-dev 9.0.0-1 libglapi-mesa 9.2.1-iubuntu3 libgl1-mesa-glx 9.2.1-1ubuntu3 libglu1-mesa 9.0.0-1 libgl1-mesa-dri 9.2.1-1ubuntu3 libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0 0-git20121227-1 libopeng1-mesa 9.2.1-1ubuntu3 libegl1-mesa 9.2.1-1ubuntu3 xscreensaver-gl 5.15-3ubuntu1 libwxgtk2.8-0 2.8.12.1-14ubuntu1 libgbm1 9.2.1-1ubuntu3 libgles2-mesa 9.2.1-1ubuntu3 libegl1-mesa-drivers 9.2.1-1ubuntu3>Is this an optimus laptop? If so, do you have the intel card enabled >in the BIOS, or is it set to nvidia-only? In that case, unless you've >specifically set up GPU offloading, your issues would be with the >intel driver.I believe it is an optimus laptop, but I do not understand much about those things. I have never touched the BIOS, so it is at the default that System76 shipped it with. I do know that the nouveau driver is installed and loaded. I do not do gaming or anything that needs fancy high speed graphics.>Can you provide your dmesg + Xorg log? That will answer some of the >above questions.Both are really long documents. I did read through the Xorg.0.log file and found no real error messages. It also noted that the nouveau driver was loaded, and that it tried to load the nvidia driver but failed because it is not installed. There is no xorg.conf file.>Are you using a compositor? If so, what happens if you turn it off (or >tell it not to use OpenGL, if that's an option).I have never been interested in special effects, 3D, etc., so it is using only whatever is installed and set up by default. If you really need the Xorg.0.log file and the full results of dmesg, can I attach them to an e-mail to this list? Thanks for your response, and apologies for not including all the information the first time.
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 1:33 AM, John Jason Jordan <johnxj at comcast.net> wrote:> On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 23:01:57 -0400 Ilia Mirkin <imirkin at alum.mit.edu> dijo: >>On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 10:41 PM, John Jason Jordan <johnxj at comcast.net> wrote: > A couple of weeks ago the Update Manager announced that there were some > updates. I do not recall exactly what packages were involved, but I > remember that some of them involved nouveau. About a week ago I finally > installed them, and that is when the problem began.Would be great to figure out what all you updated, and what introduced the regression. I believe package managers tend to keep logs of things, not sure if the Ubuntu one does or where to find those logs. I'm sure the internet knows though.> >>What kernel version are you using? What mesa version do you have >>installed? > > jjj at Devil-Bonobo:~$ uname -a > Linux Devil-Bonobo 3.11.0-20-generic #34-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 1 20:40:25 > UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > Searching in Synaptic on 'mesa' yielded the following: > > mesa-common-dev 9.2.1-1ubuntu3 > libgl1-mesa-dev 9.2.1-1ubuntu3 > linglu1-mesa-dev 9.0.0-1 > libglapi-mesa 9.2.1-iubuntu3 > libgl1-mesa-glx 9.2.1-1ubuntu3 > libglu1-mesa 9.0.0-1 > libgl1-mesa-dri 9.2.1-1ubuntu3 > libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0 0-git20121227-1 > libopeng1-mesa 9.2.1-1ubuntu3 > libegl1-mesa 9.2.1-1ubuntu3 > xscreensaver-gl 5.15-3ubuntu1 > libwxgtk2.8-0 2.8.12.1-14ubuntu1 > libgbm1 9.2.1-1ubuntu3 > libgles2-mesa 9.2.1-1ubuntu3 > libegl1-mesa-drivers 9.2.1-1ubuntu3 > >>Is this an optimus laptop? If so, do you have the intel card enabled >>in the BIOS, or is it set to nvidia-only? In that case, unless you've >>specifically set up GPU offloading, your issues would be with the >>intel driver. > > I believe it is an optimus laptop, but I do not understand much aboutBased on the information easily found online it actually doesn't appear to be optimus. But it can be hard to tell.> those things. I have never touched the BIOS, so it is at the default > that System76 shipped it with. I do know that the nouveau driver is > installed and loaded. I do not do gaming or anything that needs fancy > high speed graphics. > >>Can you provide your dmesg + Xorg log? That will answer some of the >>above questions. > > Both are really long documents. I did read through the Xorg.0.log fileWe live in the future. Emails can be large now. Attach them, or include them inline... either way. Just for giggles, also include lspci -nn output.> and found no real error messages. It also noted that the nouveau driver > was loaded, and that it tried to load the nvidia driver but failed > because it is not installed. There is no xorg.conf file. > >>Are you using a compositor? If so, what happens if you turn it off (or >>tell it not to use OpenGL, if that's an option). > > I have never been interested in special effects, 3D, etc., so it is > using only whatever is installed and set up by default.Again, we live in the future. Apparently someone decided that everyone loves special effects, and can't live without them, so they are often turned on by default. [Much as they decided that the only use-case for laptops is watching movies and so you can only get WS LCD's now, and that brightness == quality, so you have to wear sunglasses when looking at any modern displays, but I digress.] As I try to stay away from ubuntu & co, I don't really know what the defaults are these days. But if it includes gnome-shell, that definitely likes to use GL. Not sure if you can tell it not to... -ilia
On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 14:07:56 -0400 Ilia Mirkin <imirkin at alum.mit.edu> dijo:>On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 1:33 AM, John Jason Jordan ><johnxj at comcast.net> wrote: >> On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 23:01:57 -0400 Ilia Mirkin >> <imirkin at alum.mit.edu> dijo: >>>On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 10:41 PM, John Jason Jordan >>><johnxj at comcast.net> wrote: >> A couple of weeks ago the Update Manager announced that there were >> some updates. I do not recall exactly what packages were involved, >> but I remember that some of them involved nouveau. About a week ago >> I finally installed them, and that is when the problem began.>>>Are you using a compositor? If so, what happens if you turn it off >>>(or tell it not to use OpenGL, if that's an option).That was it! But not the way I think you expected. I was sure I wasn't using a compositor, but when I read this a second time I suddenly noticed that the feathered gray borders that I had around windows were missing. So I went into the Xfce Settings Manager and in the Window Manager Tweaks dialog window there is a tab for Compositor. I found that the checkbox there for "Show shadows under dock windows" was unchecked. I checked it and instantly the shadows came back. And when I tried LibreOffice and Claws mail all the missing lists and menu text was back. So the problem is solved, although I have no idea why LO and CM need the compositor to display menus and lists. That makes no sense to me. But in any event, thanks for writing that because it made my brain look at something I should have seen from the beginning. :)