Nouveau - Mar 2010 - Gallium driver and compatibility issues

Hi,

I use two nv34 cards and I would like to test / try out / use the
Gallium driver without drawbacks.

Unfortunately this has not been working since I decided to install /
compile nouveau drivers.

My system is Debian Squeeze, my kernel is 2.6.34-rc1.

The problem is:

Every time I load nouveau_dri.so into RAM existing applications are
broken / unusable (Example: gnome-games).

It does not matter if I overwrite existing versions of libglut*,
libGLw*, libGLU*, libGL*, libEGL* or not - that does not make any
difference.
The center of the problem is nouveau_dri.so and nothing else.

Could it please be possible to modify this driver file so that it does
NOT continue to break existing applications??

Would be a pleasure!

Cheers

Uwe

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Uwe Bugla <uwe.bugla at gmx.de>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I use two nv34 cards and I would like to test / try out / use the
> Gallium driver without drawbacks.
>
> Unfortunately this has not been working since I decided to install /
> compile nouveau drivers.
>
> My system is Debian Squeeze, my kernel is 2.6.34-rc1.
>
> The problem is:
>
> Every time I load nouveau_dri.so into RAM existing applications are
> broken / unusable (Example: gnome-games).
>
> It does not matter if I overwrite existing versions of libglut*,
> libGLw*, libGLU*, libGL*, libEGL* or not - that does not make any
> difference.
> The center of the problem is nouveau_dri.so and nothing else.
>
> Could it please be possible to modify this driver file so that it does
> NOT continue to break existing applications??
>
> Would be a pleasure!
>
> Cheers
>
> Uwe
Don't install nouveau_dri.so globally. When you want to try it with a
specific application set LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH=/path/to/nouveau_dri.so in
your env.

On 11.03.2010 18:42, Uwe Bugla wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I use two nv34 cards and I would like to test / try out / use the
> Gallium driver without drawbacks.
>
>   
Note that you said "use", and not "own", which is a little
biased towards "they're plugged into the same MB".
> Unfortunately this has not been working since I decided to install /
> compile nouveau drivers.
>
>   
This is kind of a pre-requisite to be able to try the gallium
drivers ... well, you can run a simulation in your head, but,
that would be rather tedious.
> My system is Debian Squeeze, my kernel is 2.6.34-rc1.
>
> The problem is:
>
> Every time I load nouveau_dri.so into RAM existing applications are
> broken / unusable (Example: gnome-games).
>
>   
Loading stuff into RAM by itself shouldn't cause any problems
if that RAM isn't used by something else, but, I'll just interpret
this as best I can:
AIGLX is loading it from .../lib/dri/, i.e. you installed it globally -
not the safest way to try, because now any app using OpenGL
may use the hw through indirect rendering.
(indirect meaning app -> libGL -> Xorg -> nouveau_dri, instead
of app -> libGL -> nouveau_dri)
> It does not matter if I overwrite existing versions of libglut*,
> libGLw*, libGLU*, libGL*, libEGL* or not - that does not make any
> difference.
> The center of the problem is nouveau_dri.so and nothing else.
>
>   
Sure, libGL etc. don't directly control the hardware, they
hook into the dri driver (nouveau_dri.so) to do that.
> Could it please be possible to modify this driver file so that it does
> NOT continue to break existing applications??
>
>   
It will break existing applications if existing applications make
use of it and it is itself broken.
So, either don't let them use it, or fix it. We're working on that.

Consider yourself lucky that you got an answer at all. Normally,
at this time, we don't care about the process of people trying the
gallium driver without knowing exactly (well, to a certain degree
at least) what they're doing.

Half-expecting to have my message dissected now,

Christoph
> Would be a pleasure!
>
> Cheers
>
> Uwe
>
>
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