http://www.hanselman.com/blog/ScottGuMVCPresentationAndScottHaScreencastFromALTNETConference.aspx In Scott Guthrie''s talk (about 43:30) he mentions requiring the render call as a convention. Interesting to see Merb influence Microsoft. :) -- Cheers, Kevin Williams http://kevwil.com/ http://www.almostserio.us/ http://kevwil.jaiku.com/