Michael Clark via llvm-dev
2017-Apr-19 17:01 UTC
[llvm-dev] [cfe-dev] FE_INEXACT being set for an exact conversion from float to unsigned long long
Changing the list from cfe-dev to llvm-dev> On 20 Apr 2017, at 4:52 AM, Michael Clark <michaeljclark at mac.com> wrote: > > I’m getting close. I think it may be an issue with an individual intrinsic. I’m looking for the X86 lowering of Instruction::FPToUI. > > I found a comment around the rationale for using a conditional move versus a branch. I believe the predicate logic using a conditional move is causing INEXACT to be set from the other side of the predicate as the lowered x86_64 code executes both conversions whereas GCC uses a branch. That seems to be the difference. > > I can’t find FPToUI in llvm/lib/Target/X86 so I’m trying to figure out what the cast gets renamed to in the target layer so I can find where the sequence is emitted. > > > $ more llvm/lib/Target/X86//README-X86-64.txt > … > Are we better off using branches instead of cmove to implement FP to > unsigned i64? > > _conv: > ucomiss LC0(%rip), %xmm0 > cvttss2siq %xmm0, %rdx > jb L3 > subss LC0(%rip), %xmm0 > movabsq $-9223372036854775808, %rax > cvttss2siq %xmm0, %rdx > xorq %rax, %rdx > L3: > movq %rdx, %rax > ret > > instead of > > _conv: > movss LCPI1_0(%rip), %xmm1 > cvttss2siq %xmm0, %rcx > movaps %xmm0, %xmm2 > subss %xmm1, %xmm2 > cvttss2siq %xmm2, %rax > movabsq $-9223372036854775808, %rdx > xorq %rdx, %rax > ucomiss %xmm1, %xmm0 > cmovb %rcx, %rax > ret > > >> On 19 Apr 2017, at 2:10 PM, Michael Clark <michaeljclark at mac.com <mailto:michaeljclark at mac.com>> wrote: >> >> >>> On 19 Apr 2017, at 1:14 PM, Tim Northover <t.p.northover at gmail.com <mailto:t.p.northover at gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> On 18 April 2017 at 15:54, Michael Clark via cfe-dev >>> <cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org <mailto:cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org>> wrote: >>>> The only way towards completing a milestone is via fixing a number of small issues along >>>> the way… >>> >>> I believe there's more to it than that. None of LLVM's optimizations >>> are aware of this extra side-channel of information (with possible >>> exceptions like avoiding speculating fdiv because of unavoidable >>> exceptions). >>> >>> From what I remember, the real proposal is to replace all >>> floating-point IR with intrinsics when FENV_ACCESS is on, which the >>> optimizers by default won't have a clue about and will treat >>> conservatively (essentially like they're modifying external memory). >>> >>> So be careful with drawing conclusions from small snippets; you're >>> probably not seeing the full range of LLVM's behaviour. >> >> >> Yes. I’m sure. >> >> It reproduces with just the cast on its own: https://godbolt.org/g/myUoL2 <https://godbolt.org/g/myUoL2> >> >> It appears to be in the LLVM lowering of the fptoui intrinsic so it must MC layer optimisations. >> >> ; Function Attrs: noinline nounwind uwtable >> define i64 @_Z7fcvt_luf(float %f) #0 { >> %1 = alloca float, align 4 >> store float %f, float* %1, align 4 >> %2 = load float, float* %1, align 4 >> %3 = fptoui float %2 to i64 >> ret i64 %3 >> } >> >> GCC performs a comparison with ucomiss and branches whereas Clang computes both forms and predicates the result using a conditional move. One of the conversions obviously is setting the INEXACT MXCSR flag. >> >> Clang lowering (inexact set when result is exact): >> >> fcvt_lu(float): >> movss xmm1, dword ptr [rip + .LCPI1_0] # xmm1 = mem[0],zero,zero,zero >> movaps xmm2, xmm0 >> subss xmm2, xmm1 >> cvttss2si rax, xmm2 >> movabs rcx, -9223372036854775808 >> xor rcx, rax >> cvttss2si rax, xmm0 >> ucomiss xmm0, xmm1 >> cmovae rax, rcx >> ret >> >> GCC lowering (sets flags correctly): >> >> fcvt_lu(float): >> ucomiss xmm0, DWORD PTR .LC0[rip] >> jnb .L4 >> cvttss2si rax, xmm0 >> ret >> .L4: >> subss xmm0, DWORD PTR .LC0[rip] >> movabs rdx, -9223372036854775808 >> cvttss2si rax, xmm0 >> xor rax, rdx >> ret >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20170420/259f8a03/attachment-0001.html>
Michael Clark via llvm-dev
2017-Apr-19 17:06 UTC
[llvm-dev] FE_INEXACT being set for an exact conversion from float to i64
Confirmed it is in the target layer in LLVM. Here is the test case: https://godbolt.org/g/kApSxe $ g++ -O3 -lm fcvt.cc $ ./a.out 1 exact 1 inexact 1 exact 1 inexact $ clang++ -O3 -lm fcvt.cc $ ./a.out 1 exact 1 inexact 1 inexact 1 inexact $ cat fcvt.cc #include <cstdio> #include <cstdint> #include <cmath> #include <limits> #include <fenv.h> typedef signed int s32; typedef unsigned int u32; typedef signed long long s64; typedef unsigned long long u64; __attribute__ ((noinline)) s32 fcvt_wu(float f) { return s32(u32(f)); } __attribute__ ((noinline)) s64 fcvt_lu(float f) { return s64(u64(f)); } void test_fcvt_wu(float a) { feclearexcept(FE_ALL_EXCEPT); printf("%d ", fcvt_wu(a)); printf("%s\n", fetestexcept(FE_INEXACT) ? "inexact" : "exact"); } void test_fcvt_lu(float a) { feclearexcept(FE_ALL_EXCEPT); printf("%lld ", fcvt_lu(a)); printf("%s\n", fetestexcept(FE_INEXACT) ? "inexact" : "exact"); } int main() { fesetround(FE_TONEAREST); test_fcvt_wu(1.0f); test_fcvt_wu(1.1f); test_fcvt_lu(1.0f); test_fcvt_lu(1.1f); }> On 20 Apr 2017, at 5:01 AM, Michael Clark <michaeljclark at mac.com> wrote: > > Changing the list from cfe-dev to llvm-dev > >> On 20 Apr 2017, at 4:52 AM, Michael Clark <michaeljclark at mac.com <mailto:michaeljclark at mac.com>> wrote: >> >> I’m getting close. I think it may be an issue with an individual intrinsic. I’m looking for the X86 lowering of Instruction::FPToUI. >> >> I found a comment around the rationale for using a conditional move versus a branch. I believe the predicate logic using a conditional move is causing INEXACT to be set from the other side of the predicate as the lowered x86_64 code executes both conversions whereas GCC uses a branch. That seems to be the difference. >> >> I can’t find FPToUI in llvm/lib/Target/X86 so I’m trying to figure out what the cast gets renamed to in the target layer so I can find where the sequence is emitted. >> >> >> $ more llvm/lib/Target/X86//README-X86-64.txt >> … >> Are we better off using branches instead of cmove to implement FP to >> unsigned i64? >> >> _conv: >> ucomiss LC0(%rip), %xmm0 >> cvttss2siq %xmm0, %rdx >> jb L3 >> subss LC0(%rip), %xmm0 >> movabsq $-9223372036854775808, %rax >> cvttss2siq %xmm0, %rdx >> xorq %rax, %rdx >> L3: >> movq %rdx, %rax >> ret >> >> instead of >> >> _conv: >> movss LCPI1_0(%rip), %xmm1 >> cvttss2siq %xmm0, %rcx >> movaps %xmm0, %xmm2 >> subss %xmm1, %xmm2 >> cvttss2siq %xmm2, %rax >> movabsq $-9223372036854775808, %rdx >> xorq %rdx, %rax >> ucomiss %xmm1, %xmm0 >> cmovb %rcx, %rax >> ret >> >> >>> On 19 Apr 2017, at 2:10 PM, Michael Clark <michaeljclark at mac.com <mailto:michaeljclark at mac.com>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On 19 Apr 2017, at 1:14 PM, Tim Northover <t.p.northover at gmail.com <mailto:t.p.northover at gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 18 April 2017 at 15:54, Michael Clark via cfe-dev >>>> <cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org <mailto:cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org>> wrote: >>>>> The only way towards completing a milestone is via fixing a number of small issues along >>>>> the way… >>>> >>>> I believe there's more to it than that. None of LLVM's optimizations >>>> are aware of this extra side-channel of information (with possible >>>> exceptions like avoiding speculating fdiv because of unavoidable >>>> exceptions). >>>> >>>> From what I remember, the real proposal is to replace all >>>> floating-point IR with intrinsics when FENV_ACCESS is on, which the >>>> optimizers by default won't have a clue about and will treat >>>> conservatively (essentially like they're modifying external memory). >>>> >>>> So be careful with drawing conclusions from small snippets; you're >>>> probably not seeing the full range of LLVM's behaviour. >>> >>> >>> Yes. I’m sure. >>> >>> It reproduces with just the cast on its own: https://godbolt.org/g/myUoL2 <https://godbolt.org/g/myUoL2> >>> >>> It appears to be in the LLVM lowering of the fptoui intrinsic so it must MC layer optimisations. >>> >>> ; Function Attrs: noinline nounwind uwtable >>> define i64 @_Z7fcvt_luf(float %f) #0 { >>> %1 = alloca float, align 4 >>> store float %f, float* %1, align 4 >>> %2 = load float, float* %1, align 4 >>> %3 = fptoui float %2 to i64 >>> ret i64 %3 >>> } >>> >>> GCC performs a comparison with ucomiss and branches whereas Clang computes both forms and predicates the result using a conditional move. One of the conversions obviously is setting the INEXACT MXCSR flag. >>> >>> Clang lowering (inexact set when result is exact): >>> >>> fcvt_lu(float): >>> movss xmm1, dword ptr [rip + .LCPI1_0] # xmm1 = mem[0],zero,zero,zero >>> movaps xmm2, xmm0 >>> subss xmm2, xmm1 >>> cvttss2si rax, xmm2 >>> movabs rcx, -9223372036854775808 >>> xor rcx, rax >>> cvttss2si rax, xmm0 >>> ucomiss xmm0, xmm1 >>> cmovae rax, rcx >>> ret >>> >>> GCC lowering (sets flags correctly): >>> >>> fcvt_lu(float): >>> ucomiss xmm0, DWORD PTR .LC0[rip] >>> jnb .L4 >>> cvttss2si rax, xmm0 >>> ret >>> .L4: >>> subss xmm0, DWORD PTR .LC0[rip] >>> movabs rdx, -9223372036854775808 >>> cvttss2si rax, xmm0 >>> xor rax, rdx >>> ret >> >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20170420/7dbbb67d/attachment.html>
Flamedoge via llvm-dev
2017-Apr-19 17:14 UTC
[llvm-dev] [cfe-dev] FE_INEXACT being set for an exact conversion from float to unsigned long long
> Are we better off using branches instead of cmove to implement FP tounsigned i64? This seems like it was done for perf reason (mispredict). Conditional-to-cmov transformation should keep from introducing additional observable side-effects, and it's clear that whatever did this did not account for floating point exception. On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Michael Clark via llvm-dev < llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:> Changing the list from cfe-dev to llvm-dev > > On 20 Apr 2017, at 4:52 AM, Michael Clark <michaeljclark at mac.com> wrote: > > I’m getting close. I think it may be an issue with an individual > intrinsic. I’m looking for the X86 lowering of Instruction::FPToUI. > > I found a comment around the rationale for using a conditional move versus > a branch. I believe the predicate logic using a conditional move is causing > INEXACT to be set from the other side of the predicate as the lowered > x86_64 code executes both conversions whereas GCC uses a branch. That seems > to be the difference. > > I can’t find FPToUI in llvm/lib/Target/X86 so I’m trying to figure out > what the cast gets renamed to in the target layer so I can find where the > sequence is emitted. > > > $ more llvm/lib/Target/X86//README-X86-64.txt > … > Are we better off using branches instead of cmove to implement FP to > unsigned i64? > > _conv: > ucomiss LC0(%rip), %xmm0 > cvttss2siq %xmm0, %rdx > jb L3 > subss LC0(%rip), %xmm0 > movabsq $-9223372036854775808, %rax > cvttss2siq %xmm0, %rdx > xorq %rax, %rdx > L3: > movq %rdx, %rax > ret > > instead of > > _conv: > movss LCPI1_0(%rip), %xmm1 > cvttss2siq %xmm0, %rcx > movaps %xmm0, %xmm2 > subss %xmm1, %xmm2 > cvttss2siq %xmm2, %rax > movabsq $-9223372036854775808, %rdx > xorq %rdx, %rax > ucomiss %xmm1, %xmm0 > cmovb %rcx, %rax > ret > > > On 19 Apr 2017, at 2:10 PM, Michael Clark <michaeljclark at mac.com> wrote: > > > On 19 Apr 2017, at 1:14 PM, Tim Northover <t.p.northover at gmail.com> wrote: > > On 18 April 2017 at 15:54, Michael Clark via cfe-dev > <cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: > > The only way towards completing a milestone is via fixing a number of > small issues along > the way… > > > I believe there's more to it than that. None of LLVM's optimizations > are aware of this extra side-channel of information (with possible > exceptions like avoiding speculating fdiv because of unavoidable > exceptions). > > From what I remember, the real proposal is to replace all > floating-point IR with intrinsics when FENV_ACCESS is on, which the > optimizers by default won't have a clue about and will treat > conservatively (essentially like they're modifying external memory). > > So be careful with drawing conclusions from small snippets; you're > probably not seeing the full range of LLVM's behaviour. > > > > Yes. I’m sure. > > It reproduces with just the cast on its own: https://godbolt.org/g/myUoL2 > > It appears to be in the LLVM lowering of the fptoui intrinsic so it must > MC layer optimisations. > > ; Function Attrs: noinline nounwind uwtable > define i64 @_Z7fcvt_luf(float %f) #0 { > %1 = alloca float, align 4 > store float %f, float* %1, align 4 > %2 = load float, float* %1, align 4 > %3 = fptoui float %2 to i64 > ret i64 %3 > } > > > GCC performs a comparison with ucomiss and branches whereas Clang computes > both forms and predicates the result using a conditional move. One of the > conversions obviously is setting the INEXACT MXCSR flag. > > Clang lowering (inexact set when result is exact): > > fcvt_lu(float): > movss xmm1, dword ptr [rip + .LCPI1_0] # xmm1 > mem[0],zero,zero,zero > movaps xmm2, xmm0 > subss xmm2, xmm1 > cvttss2si rax, xmm2 > movabs rcx, -9223372036854775808 > xor rcx, rax > cvttss2si rax, xmm0 > ucomiss xmm0, xmm1 > cmovae rax, rcx > ret > > > GCC lowering (sets flags correctly): > > fcvt_lu(float): > ucomiss xmm0, DWORD PTR .LC0[rip] > jnb .L4 > cvttss2si rax, xmm0 > ret > .L4: > subss xmm0, DWORD PTR .LC0[rip] > movabs rdx, -9223372036854775808 > cvttss2si rax, xmm0 > xor rax, rdx > ret > > > > > _______________________________________________ > LLVM Developers mailing list > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org > http://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev > >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20170419/72c5480c/attachment.html>
Kaylor, Andrew via llvm-dev
2017-Apr-20 20:50 UTC
[llvm-dev] [cfe-dev] FE_INEXACT being set for an exact conversion from float to unsigned long long
> This seems like it was done for perf reason (mispredict). Conditional-to-cmov transformation should keep > from introducing additional observable side-effects, and it's clear that whatever did this did not account > for floating point exception.That’s a very reasonable statement, but I’m not sure it corresponds to the way we have typically approached this sort of problem. In particular, there has been a de facto standard practice (and it has even been openly stated and agreed upon once or twice) of assuming default rounding mode and ignoring FP exceptions in the default (and currently only) optimization path for FP-related instructions. That is, clang/LLVM didn’t just not support FENV_ACCESS by indifference but rather we have made conscious decisions to allow transformations that violate the needs of FENV_ACCESS when doing so can improve the performance of generated code. Basically, we more or less pretend that floating point status bits don’t exist (at least before you get to the target-specific backend). You’ll find that the X86 backend doesn’t even model MXCSR at the moment. I tried to add it recently and it kind of blew up before I had even modeled it for anything other than LDMXCSR and STMCXSR. We may want to address that at some point, but right now it just isn’t there. When we discussed how FENV_ACCESS support should be implemented, Chandler proposed that when restricted modes (whether FENV_ACCESS or any other front end-specific analogous behavior) were not being used the optimizer should be able to behave as described above and that nothing done to support restricted FP behavior should complicate or restrict the default optimizer behavior. This was met with general agreement at the time. I mention all this as prologue to saying that while we should do something to get FPToUI lowered without incorrectly setting FP exception status bits, it isn’t necessarily what we want as the default behavior. I would also like to add that I personally am very pleased that you discovered this issue and have gotten as far as you have in the analysis of the problem. I’m in the process of adding constrained versions of various FP intrinsics (I have a patch ready to be sent out today) and what I’ve done up to now has been to simply translate the constrained operations into their traditional representations somewhere in the ISel process. I was aware that something would need to be done in the codegen space to continue protecting these operations, but I was kind of hoping that the actual instruction selection would be reasonably safe. FWIW, FPToUI is not one of the parts my pending patch addresses. -Andy From: llvm-dev [mailto:llvm-dev-bounces at lists.llvm.org] On Behalf Of Flamedoge via llvm-dev Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 10:14 AM To: Michael Clark <michaeljclark at mac.com> Cc: llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> Subject: Re: [llvm-dev] [cfe-dev] FE_INEXACT being set for an exact conversion from float to unsigned long long> Are we better off using branches instead of cmove to implement FP tounsigned i64? This seems like it was done for perf reason (mispredict). Conditional-to-cmov transformation should keep from introducing additional observable side-effects, and it's clear that whatever did this did not account for floating point exception. On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Michael Clark via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org<mailto:llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org>> wrote: Changing the list from cfe-dev to llvm-dev On 20 Apr 2017, at 4:52 AM, Michael Clark <michaeljclark at mac.com<mailto:michaeljclark at mac.com>> wrote: I’m getting close. I think it may be an issue with an individual intrinsic. I’m looking for the X86 lowering of Instruction::FPToUI. I found a comment around the rationale for using a conditional move versus a branch. I believe the predicate logic using a conditional move is causing INEXACT to be set from the other side of the predicate as the lowered x86_64 code executes both conversions whereas GCC uses a branch. That seems to be the difference. I can’t find FPToUI in llvm/lib/Target/X86 so I’m trying to figure out what the cast gets renamed to in the target layer so I can find where the sequence is emitted. $ more llvm/lib/Target/X86//README-X86-64.txt … Are we better off using branches instead of cmove to implement FP to unsigned i64? _conv: ucomiss LC0(%rip), %xmm0 cvttss2siq %xmm0, %rdx jb L3 subss LC0(%rip), %xmm0 movabsq $-9223372036854775808, %rax cvttss2siq %xmm0, %rdx xorq %rax, %rdx L3: movq %rdx, %rax ret instead of _conv: movss LCPI1_0(%rip), %xmm1 cvttss2siq %xmm0, %rcx movaps %xmm0, %xmm2 subss %xmm1, %xmm2 cvttss2siq %xmm2, %rax movabsq $-9223372036854775808, %rdx xorq %rdx, %rax ucomiss %xmm1, %xmm0 cmovb %rcx, %rax ret On 19 Apr 2017, at 2:10 PM, Michael Clark <michaeljclark at mac.com<mailto:michaeljclark at mac.com>> wrote: On 19 Apr 2017, at 1:14 PM, Tim Northover <t.p.northover at gmail.com<mailto:t.p.northover at gmail.com>> wrote: On 18 April 2017 at 15:54, Michael Clark via cfe-dev <cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org<mailto:cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org>> wrote: The only way towards completing a milestone is via fixing a number of small issues along the way… I believe there's more to it than that. None of LLVM's optimizations are aware of this extra side-channel of information (with possible exceptions like avoiding speculating fdiv because of unavoidable exceptions). From what I remember, the real proposal is to replace all floating-point IR with intrinsics when FENV_ACCESS is on, which the optimizers by default won't have a clue about and will treat conservatively (essentially like they're modifying external memory). So be careful with drawing conclusions from small snippets; you're probably not seeing the full range of LLVM's behaviour. Yes. I’m sure. It reproduces with just the cast on its own: https://godbolt.org/g/myUoL2 It appears to be in the LLVM lowering of the fptoui intrinsic so it must MC layer optimisations. ; Function Attrs: noinline nounwind uwtable define i64 @_Z7fcvt_luf(float %f) #0 { %1 = alloca float, align 4 store float %f, float* %1, align 4 %2 = load float, float* %1, align 4 %3 = fptoui float %2 to i64 ret i64 %3 } GCC performs a comparison with ucomiss and branches whereas Clang computes both forms and predicates the result using a conditional move. One of the conversions obviously is setting the INEXACT MXCSR flag. Clang lowering (inexact set when result is exact): fcvt_lu(float): movss xmm1, dword ptr [rip + .LCPI1_0] # xmm1 = mem[0],zero,zero,zero movaps xmm2, xmm0 subss xmm2, xmm1 cvttss2si rax, xmm2 movabs rcx, -9223372036854775808 xor rcx, rax cvttss2si rax, xmm0 ucomiss xmm0, xmm1 cmovae rax, rcx ret GCC lowering (sets flags correctly): fcvt_lu(float): ucomiss xmm0, DWORD PTR .LC0[rip] jnb .L4 cvttss2si rax, xmm0 ret .L4: subss xmm0, DWORD PTR .LC0[rip] movabs rdx, -9223372036854775808 cvttss2si rax, xmm0 xor rax, rdx ret _______________________________________________ LLVM Developers mailing list llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org<mailto:llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> http://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20170420/dced8ccf/attachment.html>