llvm dev - Sep 2016 - https://reviews.llvm.org/D23393

On 9/13/16 1:04 AM, David Chisnall via llvm-dev wrote:
> On 13 Sep 2016, at 08:45, Alex Bradbury via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at
lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>> 2) Arguably, Phabricator provides a confusing interface for first-time
>> or irregular users.
> I don’t think it’s fair to say that the Phabricator interface is confusing
for first-time or irregular users.  I use Phabricator on a couple of projects
and review things with it quite regularly and I still find the interface obtuse.
>
+1, I'm a freebsd guy as well, we (freebsd) unfortunately use 
phabricator as well, it's just suboptimal.

On 13 September 2016 at 09:17, Alfred Perlstein via llvm-dev
<llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>> I don’t think it’s fair to say that the Phabricator interface is
confusing
>> for first-time or irregular users.  I use Phabricator on a couple of
>> projects and review things with it quite regularly and I still find the
>> interface obtuse.
>>
> +1, I'm a freebsd guy as well, we (freebsd) unfortunately use
phabricator as
> well, it's just suboptimal.
+2. I use Phab since it was introduced to LLVM and I haven't "got
used" to it at all. Same with Gerrit.

GitHub, on the other hand, took me 10 minutes to get used to and 20 to
use it well. 30 minutes to find bugs, 40 to report them and a day or
two to get them fixed.

Though, with current GitHub proposals, pull requests may not work
well. We'll have to think a bit more on how that would work...

--renato

> -----Original Message-----
> From: llvm-dev [mailto:llvm-dev-bounces at lists.llvm.org] On Behalf Of
> Renato Golin via llvm-dev
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 1:47 AM
> To: Alfred Perlstein
> Cc: llvm-dev
> Subject: Re: [llvm-dev] https://reviews.llvm.org/D23393
> 
> On 13 September 2016 at 09:17, Alfred Perlstein via llvm-dev
> <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
> >> I don’t think it’s fair to say that the Phabricator interface is
> confusing
> >> for first-time or irregular users.  I use Phabricator on a couple
of
> >> projects and review things with it quite regularly and I still
find the
> >> interface obtuse.
> >>
> > +1, I'm a freebsd guy as well, we (freebsd) unfortunately use
> phabricator as
> > well, it's just suboptimal.
> 
> +2. I use Phab since it was introduced to LLVM and I haven't "got
> used" to it at all.
Oooh, a "dump on Phab" thread!  Sign me up...

There's really no good reason why we should have to have detailed cookbook
instructions on how to use Phab (http://llvm.org/docs/Phabricator.html).
Phab's help should be used in UI design classes everywhere as an example
of how NOT to do it.
--paulr
> Same with Gerrit.
> 
> GitHub, on the other hand, took me 10 minutes to get used to and 20 to
> use it well. 30 minutes to find bugs, 40 to report them and a day or
> two to get them fixed.
> 
> Though, with current GitHub proposals, pull requests may not work
> well. We'll have to think a bit more on how that would work...
> 
> --renato
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