Module-Level Attributes Overview -------- LLVM currently lacks the ability to specify an attribute on a module as a whole. This isn't typically a problem as most optimizations and code transformations rely upon more finer-grained information, such as function attributes. However, some transformations, in particular LTO, may need to know information about the module. As a side-benefit, it could be used to reduce the number of global variables which are currently used only to convey information to the back-end, linker, et al. Proposal -------- Syntax: ml-attr ::= 'module' 'attr' NAME ('[' NAME (',' NAME)* ']')? where the optional list of NAMEs in the square brackets represents sub-attributes of the main attribute. Semantics: Module-level attributes are looked at only by those parts of the compiler which care about them. Deleting a module attribute may effect code generation. Each module- level attribute will have its own documented semantics for how it may be used. Example: The Objective-C imageinfo section isn't merged correctly for the following. t.mm: #import <Foundation/Foundation.h> NSAutoreleasePool *foo(); int main() { NSAutoreleasePool *pool = [[NSAutoreleasePool alloc] init]; NSAutoreleasePool *pond = foo(); return 0; } f.mm: #import <Foundation/Foundation.h> NSAutoreleasePool *foo() { return [[NSAutoreleasePool alloc] init]; } $ llvm-g++ -fobjc-gc t.mm -c -flto $ llvm-g++ -fno-objc-gc f.mm -c -flto $ llvm-g++ t.o f.o -flto -framework Foundation ld: warning: section __DATA/__objc_imageinfo__DATA has unexpectedly large size 16 in /tmp/lto.o $ In this example, LTO is concatenating the imageinfo sections instead of performing a proper merge. Here are the LLVM global variables that contain the imageinfo information. -fno-objc-gc: @OBJC_IMAGE_INFO = private constant [2 x i32] [i32 0, i32 16], section "__DATA, __objc_imageinfo, regular, no_dead_strip" -fobjc-gc-only: @OBJC_IMAGE_INFO = private constant [2 x i32] [i32 0, i32 22], section "__DATA, __objc_imageinfo, regular, no_dead_strip" With module-level attributes, these global variables wouldn't exist. Instead, they would be replaced by something like this: -fno-objc-gc: module attr ImageInfo [CorrectedSynthesize] -fobjc-gc-only: module attr ImageInfo [CorrectedSynthesize, GCOnly] LTO would see that the module attributes are incompatible and will reject trying to link the two modules. Comments? -bw -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20101028/7a8ff71e/attachment.html>
> LTO would see that the module attributes are incompatible and will reject > trying > to link the two modules. > Comments?Just questions since I am not familiar with objc: *) Is the native linker able to handle this if you don't use LTO? *) -fobjc-gc/-fno-objc-gc have any other impact on functions or data structures? Could you use these to detect the problem? I am just a bit concerned that llvm-extract (and therefore bugpoint) will not work correctly for functions that have a dependency on file attributes. If it is not easy to detect the above issues by looking at function signatures or something similar, the above proposal looks like a reasonable way to do it. Can you constrain that, in the LTO level, the module attributes are used only to check for compatibility? Once the modules are found to me compatible and merged the attributes can still impact codegen.> -bwCheers, Rafael
On 29 October 2010 01:46, Bill Wendling <wendling at apple.com> wrote:> Syntax: > ml-attr ::= 'module' 'attr' NAME ('[' NAME (',' NAME)* ']')? > where the optional list of NAMEs in the square brackets represents sub-attributes > of the main attribute. > Semantics: > Module-level attributes are looked at only by those parts of the compiler which > care about them. Deleting a module attribute may effect code generation. > Each module-level attribute will have its own documented semantics for > how it may be used.Hi Bill, This sounds very similar with my proposal to introduce ARM build attributes as a module level property (pretty much like data layout and target triple). You can specify restrictions that you passed via the front-end and get them propagated all the way to the back end, even if you're compiling in separate steps, linking objects from different processes. Allowing target-dependent attributes to be set (ie. not verified by the front-end), you wouldn't pollute x86 modules with ARM build attributes or C++ modules with Objective-C attributes. An alternative would be to use metadata for that, as was proposed already due to it's non-checked nature, but metadata needs a real Value to remain in the module, and that's precisely what you're trying to avoid. I, for one, vote in favour of having module attributes. cheers, --renato
On Oct 28, 2010, at 5:46 PM, Bill Wendling wrote:> > Comments?Hi Bill, This is a broad solution to what sounds like a specific problem. Are there any other uses for module-level attributes anticipated? Do you anticipate defining what ImageInfo, CorrectedSynthesize, GCOnly, etc. mean in LangRef.html, or are they just going to be left as "The is for ObjC." ? Thanks, Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20101030/b8011806/attachment.html>
On Oct 29, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Rafael Espíndola wrote:>> LTO would see that the module attributes are incompatible and will reject >> trying >> to link the two modules. >> Comments? > > Just questions since I am not familiar with objc: > > *) Is the native linker able to handle this if you don't use LTO?The back-end will be responsible for generating the correct imageinfo section based on the attributes. So there will be no functionality change for non-LTO linkage.> *) -fobjc-gc/-fno-objc-gc have any other impact on functions or data > structures? Could you use these to detect the problem?Do be honest, I don't know enough about these flag to say. However, it does appear that in this case the only effect of these flags is in the imageinfo section. Any other changes would be done by the front-end.> I am just a bit concerned that llvm-extract (and therefore bugpoint) > will not work correctly for functions that have a dependency on file > attributes. If it is not easy to detect the above issues by looking at > function signatures or something similar, the above proposal looks > like a reasonable way to do it. > > Can you constrain that, in the LTO level, the module attributes are > used only to check for compatibility? Once the modules are found to me > compatible and merged the attributes can still impact codegen.I agree that these attributes should be restricted to module-level information, and not impact functions the way function attributes do. That said, I think that llvm-extract would need to copy the module attributes over into the new .bc file. However, this does go beyond just supporting LTO (though that is the impetus for this feature proposal). So I still want them to impact codegen regardless. It's just a question of what will be impacted. In this case (and I suspect most cases), it's information about what to put in different DATA sections (and in some cases what to name those sections) and not how to transform executable code. -bw
On Oct 30, 2010, at 7:53 AM, Renato Golin wrote:> On 29 October 2010 01:46, Bill Wendling <wendling at apple.com> wrote: >> Syntax: >> ml-attr ::= 'module' 'attr' NAME ('[' NAME (',' NAME)* ']')? >> where the optional list of NAMEs in the square brackets represents sub-attributes >> of the main attribute. >> Semantics: >> Module-level attributes are looked at only by those parts of the compiler which >> care about them. Deleting a module attribute may effect code generation. >> Each module-level attribute will have its own documented semantics for >> how it may be used. > > Hi Bill, > > This sounds very similar with my proposal to introduce ARM build > attributes as a module level property (pretty much like data layout > and target triple). You can specify restrictions that you passed via > the front-end and get them propagated all the way to the back end, > even if you're compiling in separate steps, linking objects from > different processes. >Cool! I missed your proposal. Do you have a link to it?> Allowing target-dependent attributes to be set (ie. not verified by > the front-end), you wouldn't pollute x86 modules with ARM build > attributes or C++ modules with Objective-C attributes. > > An alternative would be to use metadata for that, as was proposed > already due to it's non-checked nature, but metadata needs a real > Value to remain in the module, and that's precisely what you're trying > to avoid. >The other problem with metadata is that it's not may be removed at any point in the compilation process. So you cannot depend upon it being there.> I, for one, vote in favour of having module attributes. >Thanks :-) -bw
On Oct 30, 2010, at 9:28 AM, Dan Gohman wrote:> Hi Bill, > > This is a broad solution to what sounds like a specific problem. Are there any > other uses for module-level attributes anticipated? >I asked this same question to Chris and the answer is "yes." Objective-C is the obvious benefactor of this proposal, because it relies so heavily on metadata. But there's no reason that it should be restricted to just ObjC.> Do you anticipate defining what ImageInfo, CorrectedSynthesize, GCOnly, etc. > mean in LangRef.html, or are they just going to be left as "The is for ObjC." ? >They and all other attributes will be explicitly defined in LangRef.html. -bw
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