llvm dev - Oct 2008 - [LLVMdev] MS C++ gives error C2371 on this code while (obviously)gcc compiles it fine

Those rules only apply to if and switch statements. (Yes, this is insane, 
but true.) The entire section you are quoting from, 6.4, is titled 
"Selection statements [stmt.select]", which specifically covers these
two
cases. A for is an iteration statement, not a selection statement.

So, if you read 6.5.3p1 (which is actually about for statements) it states 
that a for loop is rewritten as a while loop where names defined by the 
for-init-statement are declared in the declaration space of the condition of 
the while statement. Then, if you read 6.5.1p2 it states:

<quote>
-2- When the condition of a while statement is a declaration, the scope of 
the variable that is declared extends from its point of declaration 
(basic.scope.pdecl) to the end of the while statement. A while statement of 
the form

while (T t = x) statement

is equivalent to
label:
{                               //  start of condition scope
    T t = x;
    if (t) {
	statement
	goto label;
    }
}                               //  end of condition scope
</quote>

Unlike the case of the for statement, there are no subsequent rules that 
redefine where this declaration is scoped. This rewrite means that the rules 
you cite in 6.4 simply do not apply: for loops don't cause conditions in 
selection statements, and therefore should not be scoped in that manner. 
They almost are, but the rules for while statements actually force the 
declaration outside of the condition of the if statement.

You are correct, though, that gcc should be emitting an error in the case of 
the if statement. Naughty gcc.

-J

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From: "Argiris Kirtzidis" <akyrtzi at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 11:33 AM
To: "LLVM Developers Mailing List" <llvmdev at cs.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Re: [LLVMdev] MS C++ gives error C2371 on this code
while(obviously)gcccompiles it fine
> Jay Freeman (saurik) wrote:
>> gcc is correct. According to the ISO specification, the 
>> for-init-statement
>> is supposed to inject any variable names into the same declarative
scope
>> as
>> the condition of an equivalent restructuring of the loop in the form of
a
>> while statement, which in turn fronts the declaration to an extra scope
>> that
>> surrounds the /entire/ loop construct. VC++ seems to be scoping the
>> variables as if they were /inside/ of the loop and not creating this 
>> extra
>> scope. Frowny. -J
>>
>
> Actually, gcc is wrong and VC++ got it right.
> From the C++ standard, 6.4p3:
>
>> A name introduced by a declaration in a condition (either introduced
>> by the type-specifier-seq or the declarator of the
>> condition) is in scope from its point of declaration until the end of
>> the substatements controlled by the condition. If the
>> name is re-declared in the outermost block of a substatement
>> controlled by the condition, the declaration that re-declares
>> the name is ill-formed.
>
> Which gives us:
>
> while (int x=0) {
>    int x=0;   // error: redeclaration, clashes with condition
> }
>
> Both gcc and VC++ emit a compilation error for the above.
>
> Then the standard says this, 6.5.3p1:
>
>> names declared in the for-init-statement are in the same
>> declarative-region as those declared in the condition
>
> So names inside the 'for' loop clash with both the condition and
the
> for-init-statement:
>
> for (int x=0;;) {
>    int x=0;   // error: redeclaration, clashes with for-init-statement
> }
>
> but gcc, incorrectly, does not emit a compilation error.
>
> And while we are on the subject, gcc is also wrong on this one:
>
> if (int x=0) {
>    int x=0;   // error: redeclaration, but gcc does not emit any errors.
> }
>
>
> -Argiris
>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Yanko" <yhdezalvarez at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 8:12 AM
>> To: <llvmdev at cs.uiuc.edu>
>> Subject: [LLVMdev] MS C++ gives error C2371 on this code while
>> (obviously)gcc compiles it fine
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> makes the code compilable by MS C++. But as a curiosity (and I
really
>>> don't know the answer because I can barely read C++): Which
compiler
>>> got it right?
>>>
>>
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Jay Freeman (saurik) wrote:
> Those rules only apply to if and switch statements. (Yes, this is insane, 
> but true.) The entire section you are quoting from, 6.4, is titled 
> "Selection statements [stmt.select]", which specifically covers
these two
> cases. A for is an iteration statement, not a selection statement.
>   
See 6.4p2: "The rules for conditions apply both to selection-statements 
and to the for and while statements"
> So, if you read 6.5.3p1 (which is actually about for statements) it states 
> that a for loop is rewritten as a while loop where names defined by the 
> for-init-statement are declared in the declaration space of the condition
of
> the while statement. Then, if you read 6.5.1p2 it states:
>
> <quote>
> -2- When the condition of a while statement is a declaration, the scope of 
> the variable that is declared extends from its point of declaration 
> (basic.scope.pdecl) to the end of the while statement. A while statement of
> the form
>
> while (T t = x) statement
>
> is equivalent to
> label:
> {                               //  start of condition scope
>     T t = x;
>     if (t) {
> 	statement
> 	goto label;
>     }
> }                               //  end of condition scope
> </quote>
>
> Unlike the case of the for statement, there are no subsequent rules that 
> redefine where this declaration is scoped. This rewrite means that the
rules
> you cite in 6.4 simply do not apply: for loops don't cause conditions
in
> selection statements, and therefore should not be scoped in that manner. 
> They almost are, but the rules for while statements actually force the 
> declaration outside of the condition of the if statement.
>   
Again, see the 6.4p2 reference. 'while' statements should also follow 
this rule:
> If the name is re-declared in the outermost block of a substatement 
> controlled by the condition, the declaration that re-declares the name 
> is ill-formed.
gcc correctly scopes the declaration inside the while statement:

while (int x=0) {
   int x=0;   // error: redeclaration.
}


-Argiris
> You are correct, though, that gcc should be emitting an error in the case
of
> the if statement. Naughty gcc.
>
> -J
>

Fair enough, you win this round. ;P (Which actually makes me happy as that 
makes things a lot more consistent and sensible.) -J

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From: "Argiris Kirtzidis" <akyrtzi at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 12:32 PM
To: "LLVM Developers Mailing List" <llvmdev at cs.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Re: [LLVMdev] MS C++ gives error C2371 on this code
while(obviously)gcccompiles it fine

...
> See 6.4p2: "The rules for conditions apply both to
selection-statements
> and to the for and while statements"
...
> -Argiris