hi all, I have used LLVM extensively over the last 2 years. I have realized a so called change framework that based on the LLVM framework. Basically it is a framework that augments the JIT to understand "changes", such that a mutator process can formulate changes in a change language (inspired by DTrace's D), which is too compiled to LLVM and sent to the application process. The application process than transforms the IR and marks the functions as beeing dirty. After a detection period, the changes are detected and the functions in question get recompiled and relinked, such that the change is now applied within the application. Every change can be undone. This is done by keeping an undo record of changes (allthough other approaches would seem fit also). The thesis can be found on http://www.prahersoft.com/~jp/da.pdf. Part of the thesis is an extensive documentation of the LLVM framework from a 10000 feet view. This might be interesting to new-comers. The reason why I did not post information on this list, is that the my university rules did not allow me to. I would be interested in hearing from you about it. -- Jakob
Jakob, What exactly can you describe in this change language? There is a lot of research happening now on techniques to identify the best sequence of optimizations for a particular program, or just the best output form for the program. There are no really good infrastructures for this kind of work, but we have been interested in making LLVM useful for such work. (LLVM has been used by Keith Cooper's group at Rice for this purpose because it allows very easy pipelining of passes.) I'm wondering if the change language can be used to describe a sequence of transformations more abstractly to make this kind of research easier and more systematic? --Vikram http://www.cs.uiuc.edu/~vadve http://llvm.org On Apr 25, 2007, at 2:01 AM, Jakob Praher wrote:> hi all, > > I have used LLVM extensively over the last 2 years. > I have realized a so called change framework that based on the LLVM > framework. > > Basically it is a framework that augments the JIT to understand > "changes", such that a mutator process can formulate changes in a > change > language (inspired by DTrace's D), which is too compiled to LLVM and > sent to the application process. > > The application process than transforms the IR and marks the functions > as beeing dirty. After a detection period, the changes are detected > and > the functions in question get recompiled and relinked, such that the > change is now applied within the application. > > Every change can be undone. This is done by keeping an undo record of > changes (allthough other approaches would seem fit also). > > The thesis can be found on http://www.prahersoft.com/~jp/da.pdf. > Part of the thesis is an extensive documentation of the LLVM framework > from a 10000 feet view. This might be interesting to new-comers. > > The reason why I did not post information on this list, is that the my > university rules did not allow me to. > > I would be interested in hearing from you about it. > > -- Jakob > > _______________________________________________ > LLVM Developers mailing list > LLVMdev at cs.uiuc.edu http://llvm.cs.uiuc.edu > http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/llvmdev
hi Vikram, thanks for your interest. Vikram S. Adve schrieb:> Jakob, > > What exactly can you describe in this change language?The language itself is based on so called providers. Providers run within the execution engine and export information (static) for fast evaulation. Every node in the representation is visited (at a certain scope). Providers declare their scope (such as function, basic bock, ...) So you can write a provder and use it right away with the change language. The change language itself is simply a C like langauge that compiles to LLVM and gets loaded by the execution engine. The change language is composed of a a predicate and some change statements (in a body) . The predicate gets translated to a LLVM function and get compiled to machine code at application time. Such that the predicate function can be called on any node visited in a static way. If this function call evaluates to true, then the system knows to insert the changes at that point. Since the body of the change is also already in llvm representation the transformation is simply adding the nodes at that point into the graph and keeping an undo record. What can be achieved really depends on how clever the provider is. For instance I sketched out a loopinfoProvider that works by DFS on the CFG to produce loop information points (such as LoopEnter, LoopExit, LoopHeaderEnter,...) The change language can use this provider and insert code at every LoopExit/LoopEnter,... points. In order to express dynamic information (at run-time) a TLS object is introduced, that exports function pointers to set and get named values on TLS. These are pluggable too. Such that one can write her/his own magic value (io, thread, ...) that provide dynamic services. At this time the provider visits nodes and performs predicate checks based on the supplied change predicates.> There is a > lot of research happening now on techniques to identify the best > sequence of optimizations for a particular program, or just the best > output form for the program. There are no really good > infrastructures for this kind of work, but we have been interested in > making LLVM useful for such work. (LLVM has been used by Keith > Cooper's group at Rice for this purpose because it allows very easy > pipelining of passes.)That is interesting. I for instance have thought about using the change framework for hot spot analysis, since this is what basically could be done (using loop information... ). Thought the change framework has some problems transforming existing code. It merely inserts code at certain points at this time. One would have to identify how to express changing of the LLVM graph by transformation. For instance write a change that performs function inlining or loop unrolling .... The framework is there.> > I'm wondering if the change language can be used to describe a > sequence of transformations more abstractly to make this kind of > research easier and more systematic?See above I think what is imissing now is how to transform existing instruction sequences, and not merely inserting them at points. -- Jakob> On Apr 25, 2007, at 2:01 AM, Jakob Praher wrote: > >> hi all, >> >> I have used LLVM extensively over the last 2 years. >> I have realized a so called change framework that based on the LLVM >> framework. >> >> Basically it is a framework that augments the JIT to understand >> "changes", such that a mutator process can formulate changes in a >> change >> language (inspired by DTrace's D), which is too compiled to LLVM and >> sent to the application process. >> >> The application process than transforms the IR and marks the functions >> as beeing dirty. After a detection period, the changes are detected >> and >> the functions in question get recompiled and relinked, such that the >> change is now applied within the application. >> >> Every change can be undone. This is done by keeping an undo record of >> changes (allthough other approaches would seem fit also). >> >> The thesis can be found on http://www.prahersoft.com/~jp/da.pdf. >> Part of the thesis is an extensive documentation of the LLVM framework >> from a 10000 feet view. This might be interesting to new-comers. >> >> The reason why I did not post information on this list, is that the my >> university rules did not allow me to. >> >> I would be interested in hearing from you about it. >> >> -- Jakob >> >> _______________________________________________ >> LLVM Developers mailing list >> LLVMdev at cs.uiuc.edu http://llvm.cs.uiuc.edu >> http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/llvmdev
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Jakob Praher wrote:> I have used LLVM extensively over the last 2 years. > I have realized a so called change framework that based on the LLVM > framework.I am just now getting a chance to read through your thesis. It looks like excellent work. Do you mind if we add it to llvm.org/pubs ? -Chris> Basically it is a framework that augments the JIT to understand > "changes", such that a mutator process can formulate changes in a change > language (inspired by DTrace's D), which is too compiled to LLVM and > sent to the application process. > > The application process than transforms the IR and marks the functions > as beeing dirty. After a detection period, the changes are detected and > the functions in question get recompiled and relinked, such that the > change is now applied within the application. > > Every change can be undone. This is done by keeping an undo record of > changes (allthough other approaches would seem fit also). > > The thesis can be found on http://www.prahersoft.com/~jp/da.pdf. > Part of the thesis is an extensive documentation of the LLVM framework > from a 10000 feet view. This might be interesting to new-comers. > > The reason why I did not post information on this list, is that the my > university rules did not allow me to. > > I would be interested in hearing from you about it. > > -- Jakob > > _______________________________________________ > LLVM Developers mailing list > LLVMdev at cs.uiuc.edu http://llvm.cs.uiuc.edu > http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/llvmdev >-Chris -- http://nondot.org/sabre/ http://llvm.org/
Hi Chris, Chris Lattner wrote:> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Jakob Praher wrote: >> I have used LLVM extensively over the last 2 years. >> I have realized a so called change framework that based on the LLVM >> framework. > > I am just now getting a chance to read through your thesis. It looks like > excellent work. Do you mind if we add it to llvm.org/pubs ? > > -Chrisit would be an honor. thank you very much. -- Jakob> >> Basically it is a framework that augments the JIT to understand >> "changes", such that a mutator process can formulate changes in a change >> language (inspired by DTrace's D), which is too compiled to LLVM and >> sent to the application process. >> >> The application process than transforms the IR and marks the functions >> as beeing dirty. After a detection period, the changes are detected and >> the functions in question get recompiled and relinked, such that the >> change is now applied within the application. >> >> Every change can be undone. This is done by keeping an undo record of >> changes (allthough other approaches would seem fit also). >> >> The thesis can be found on http://www.prahersoft.com/~jp/da.pdf. >> Part of the thesis is an extensive documentation of the LLVM framework >> from a 10000 feet view. This might be interesting to new-comers. >> >> The reason why I did not post information on this list, is that the my >> university rules did not allow me to. >> >> I would be interested in hearing from you about it. >> >> -- Jakob >> >> _______________________________________________ >> LLVM Developers mailing list >> LLVMdev at cs.uiuc.edu http://llvm.cs.uiuc.edu >> http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/llvmdev >> > > -Chris >
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