Sudeep Dutt
2013-Aug-14 20:24 UTC
[PATCH 0/5] Enable Drivers for Intel MIC X100 Coprocessors.
On Tue, 2013-08-13 at 14:43 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:> Hi! > > > Since it is a PCIe card, it does not have the ability to host hardware > > devices for networking, storage and console. We provide these devices > > on X100 coprocessors thus enabling a self-bootable equivalent environment > > for applications. A key benefit of our solution is that it leverages > > the standard virtio framework for network, disk and console devices, > > though in our case the virtio framework is used across a PCIe bus. > > Interesting... > > > Documentation/mic/mic_overview.txt | 48 + > > Documentation/mic/mpssd/.gitignore | 1 + > > Documentation/mic/mpssd/Makefile | 20 + > > Documentation/mic/mpssd/micctrl | 157 +++ > > Documentation/mic/mpssd/mpss | 246 +++++ > > Documentation/mic/mpssd/mpssd.c | 1732 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Documentation/mic/mpssd/mpssd.h | 105 +++ > > Documentation/mic/mpssd/sysfs.c | 108 +++ > > drivers/misc/Kconfig | 1 + > > drivers/misc/Makefile | 1 + > > drivers/misc/mic/Kconfig | 56 ++ > > drivers/misc/mic/Makefile | 6 + > > drivers/misc/mic/card/Makefile | 11 + > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_common.h | 43 + > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_debugfs.c | 139 +++ > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_debugfs.h | 40 + > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_device.c | 311 ++++++ > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_device.h | 106 +++ > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_virtio.c | 643 +++++++++++++ > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_virtio.h | 79 ++ > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_x100.c | 253 +++++ > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_x100.h | 53 ++ > > drivers/misc/mic/common/mic_device.h | 85 ++ > > drivers/misc/mic/host/Makefile | 13 + > > drivers/misc/mic/host/mic_boot.c | 181 ++++ > > So... there are basically separate computers running on PCIe card > plugged into host computer, right? >They are PCIe form factor Coprocessors plugged into the host.> Maybe we should have something more promintent than drivers/misc for > this, then? Like drivers/multicomputer? >multicomputer" is an interesting name for these kind of devices but has several issues: a) The definition I found for multicomputer online was "A computer made up of several computers. The term generally refers to an architecture in which each processor has its own memory rather than multiple processors with a shared memory. A multicore computer, although it sounds similar, would not be a multicomputer because the multiple cores share a common memory." Intel MIC X100 devices typically have upto 244 CPUs (61 cores) on the card sharing common card memory so multicomputer would not be accurate based on this definition. b) X100 MIC devices have always been referred to Coprocessors and never as multicomputers in product specifications @ http://software.intel.com/en-us/mic-developer c) multicomputer is a very long path name. Given these issues, we would like to stick to drivers/misc/mic/ unless you have objections to this approach. Thanks for the feedback. Sudeep Dutt> Pavel >
Pavel Machek
2013-Aug-15 10:14 UTC
[PATCH 0/5] Enable Drivers for Intel MIC X100 Coprocessors.
Hi!> > > Since it is a PCIe card, it does not have the ability to host hardware > > > devices for networking, storage and console. We provide these devices > > > on X100 coprocessors thus enabling a self-bootable equivalent environment > > > for applications. A key benefit of our solution is that it leverages > > > the standard virtio framework for network, disk and console devices, > > > though in our case the virtio framework is used across a PCIe bus. > > > > Interesting... > > > > > Documentation/mic/mic_overview.txt | 48 + > > > Documentation/mic/mpssd/.gitignore | 1 + > > > Documentation/mic/mpssd/Makefile | 20 + > > > Documentation/mic/mpssd/micctrl | 157 +++ > > > Documentation/mic/mpssd/mpss | 246 +++++ > > > Documentation/mic/mpssd/mpssd.c | 1732 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > Documentation/mic/mpssd/mpssd.h | 105 +++ > > > Documentation/mic/mpssd/sysfs.c | 108 +++ > > > drivers/misc/Kconfig | 1 + > > > drivers/misc/Makefile | 1 + > > > drivers/misc/mic/Kconfig | 56 ++ > > > drivers/misc/mic/Makefile | 6 + > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/Makefile | 11 + > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_common.h | 43 + > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_debugfs.c | 139 +++ > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_debugfs.h | 40 + > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_device.c | 311 ++++++ > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_device.h | 106 +++ > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_virtio.c | 643 +++++++++++++ > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_virtio.h | 79 ++ > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_x100.c | 253 +++++ > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_x100.h | 53 ++ > > > drivers/misc/mic/common/mic_device.h | 85 ++ > > > drivers/misc/mic/host/Makefile | 13 + > > > drivers/misc/mic/host/mic_boot.c | 181 ++++ > > > > So... there are basically separate computers running on PCIe card > > plugged into host computer, right? > > > > They are PCIe form factor Coprocessors plugged into the host. > > > Maybe we should have something more promintent than drivers/misc for > > this, then? Like drivers/multicomputer? > > > > multicomputer" is an interesting name for these kind of devices but has > several issues: > a) The definition I found for multicomputer online was "A computer made > up of several computers. The term generally refers to an architecture in > which each processor has its own memory rather than multiple processors > with a shared memory. A multicore computer, although it sounds similar, > would not be a multicomputer because the multiple cores share a common > memory." Intel MIC X100 devices typically have upto 244 CPUs (61 cores) > on the card sharing common card memory so multicomputer would not be > accurate based on this definition.Well... you have your "host" computer, and than (potentially several) Intel MIC devices, which are basically separate computers. So X100 is not a multicomputer, but machine with several X100 cards certainly is multicomputer.> b) X100 MIC devices have always been referred to Coprocessors and never > as multicomputers in product specifications @ > http://software.intel.com/en-us/mic-developerCoprocessor sounds like i487, but why not.> c) multicomputer is a very long path name.Agreed it is long. drivers/coproc? [I guess we'll get similar hardware from different vendors in future. It would make sense having it at common place.] Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html
Sudeep Dutt
2013-Aug-16 16:59 UTC
[PATCH 0/5] Enable Drivers for Intel MIC X100 Coprocessors.
On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 12:14 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:> Hi! >Hi!> > > > Since it is a PCIe card, it does not have the ability to host hardware > > > > devices for networking, storage and console. We provide these devices > > > > on X100 coprocessors thus enabling a self-bootable equivalent environment > > > > for applications. A key benefit of our solution is that it leverages > > > > the standard virtio framework for network, disk and console devices, > > > > though in our case the virtio framework is used across a PCIe bus. > > > > > > Interesting... > > > > > > > Documentation/mic/mic_overview.txt | 48 + > > > > Documentation/mic/mpssd/.gitignore | 1 + > > > > Documentation/mic/mpssd/Makefile | 20 + > > > > Documentation/mic/mpssd/micctrl | 157 +++ > > > > Documentation/mic/mpssd/mpss | 246 +++++ > > > > Documentation/mic/mpssd/mpssd.c | 1732 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > Documentation/mic/mpssd/mpssd.h | 105 +++ > > > > Documentation/mic/mpssd/sysfs.c | 108 +++ > > > > drivers/misc/Kconfig | 1 + > > > > drivers/misc/Makefile | 1 + > > > > drivers/misc/mic/Kconfig | 56 ++ > > > > drivers/misc/mic/Makefile | 6 + > > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/Makefile | 11 + > > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_common.h | 43 + > > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_debugfs.c | 139 +++ > > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_debugfs.h | 40 + > > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_device.c | 311 ++++++ > > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_device.h | 106 +++ > > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_virtio.c | 643 +++++++++++++ > > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_virtio.h | 79 ++ > > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_x100.c | 253 +++++ > > > > drivers/misc/mic/card/mic_x100.h | 53 ++ > > > > drivers/misc/mic/common/mic_device.h | 85 ++ > > > > drivers/misc/mic/host/Makefile | 13 + > > > > drivers/misc/mic/host/mic_boot.c | 181 ++++ > > > > > > So... there are basically separate computers running on PCIe card > > > plugged into host computer, right? > > > > > > > They are PCIe form factor Coprocessors plugged into the host. > > > > > Maybe we should have something more promintent than drivers/misc for > > > this, then? Like drivers/multicomputer? > > > > > > > multicomputer" is an interesting name for these kind of devices but has > > several issues: > > a) The definition I found for multicomputer online was "A computer made > > up of several computers. The term generally refers to an architecture in > > which each processor has its own memory rather than multiple processors > > with a shared memory. A multicore computer, although it sounds similar, > > would not be a multicomputer because the multiple cores share a common > > memory." Intel MIC X100 devices typically have upto 244 CPUs (61 cores) > > on the card sharing common card memory so multicomputer would not be > > accurate based on this definition. > > Well... you have your "host" computer, and than (potentially several) > Intel MIC devices, which are basically separate computers. So X100 is > not a multicomputer, but machine with several X100 cards certainly is > multicomputer. > > > b) X100 MIC devices have always been referred to Coprocessors and never > > as multicomputers in product specifications @ > > http://software.intel.com/en-us/mic-developer > > Coprocessor sounds like i487, but why not. > > > c) multicomputer is a very long path name. > > Agreed it is long. drivers/coproc? > > [I guess we'll get similar hardware from different vendors in > future. It would make sense having it at common place.] >drivers/coproc is a good, short suggestion. Intel MIC X100 devices are likely unique since they can run a general purpose OS in a PCIe form factor Coprocessor plugged to the host. This might result in MIC potentially being the only driver under drivers/coproc till another general purpose Coprocessor comes along. Is it recommended to create a new driver directory (drivers/coproc) in anticipation of future devices? Do you think it would be better if we revive this discussion, once another Coprocessor with similar capabilities comes along? Thanks, Sudeep Dutt> Pavel >
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