Vladimir Oltean
2023-Apr-10 20:49 UTC
[Bridge] [PATCH net] net: bridge: switchdev: don't notify FDB entries with "master dynamic"
There is a structural problem in switchdev, where the flag bits in struct switchdev_notifier_fdb_info (added_by_user, is_local etc) only represent a simplified / denatured view of what's in struct net_bridge_fdb_entry :: flags (BR_FDB_ADDED_BY_USER, BR_FDB_LOCAL etc). Each time we want to pass more information about struct net_bridge_fdb_entry :: flags to struct switchdev_notifier_fdb_info (here, BR_FDB_STATIC), we find that FDB entries were already notified to switchdev with no regard to this flag, and thus, switchdev drivers had no indication whether the notified entries were static or not. For example, this command: ip link add br0 type bridge && ip link set swp0 master br0 bridge fdb add dev swp0 00:01:02:03:04:05 master dynamic causes a struct net_bridge_fdb_entry to be passed to br_switchdev_fdb_notify() which has a single flag set: BR_FDB_ADDED_BY_USER. This is further passed to the switchdev notifier chain, where interested drivers have no choice but to assume this is a static FDB entry. So currently, all drivers offload it to hardware as such. bridge fdb get 00:01:02:03:04:05 dev swp0 master 00:01:02:03:04:05 dev swp0 offload master br0 The software FDB entry expires after the $ageing_time and the bridge notifies its deletion as well, so it eventually disappears from hardware too. This is a problem, because it is actually desirable to start offloading "master dynamic" FDB entries correctly, and this is how the current incorrect behavior was discovered. To see why the current behavior of "here's a static FDB entry when you asked for a dynamic one" is incorrect, it is possible to imagine a scenario like below, where this decision could lead to packet loss: Step 1: management prepares FDB entries like this: bridge fdb add dev swp0 ${MAC_A} master dynamic bridge fdb add dev swp2 ${MAC_B} master dynamic br0 / | \ / | \ swp0 swp1 swp2 | | A B Step 2: station A migrates to swp1 (assume that swp0's link doesn't flap during that time so that the port isn't flushed, for example station A was behind an intermediary switch): br0 / | \ / | \ swp0 swp1 swp2 | | | A B Whenever A wants to ping B, its packets will be autonomously forwarded by the switch (because ${MAC_B} is known). So the software will never see packets from ${MAC_A} as source address, and will never know it needs to invalidate the dynamic FDB entry towards swp0. As for the hardware FDB entry, that's static, it doesn't move when the station roams. So when B wants to reply to A's pings, the switch will forward those replies to swp0 until the software bridge ages out its dynamic entry, and that can cause connectivity loss for up to 5 minutes after roaming. With a correctly offloaded dynamic FDB entry, the switch would update its entry for ${MAC_A} to be towards swp1 as soon as it sees packets from it (no need for CPU intervention). Looking at tools/testing/selftests/net/forwarding/, there is no valid use of the "bridge fdb add ... master dynamic" command there, so I am fairly confident that no one used to rely on this behavior. With the change in place, these FDB entries are no longer offloaded: bridge fdb get 00:01:02:03:04:05 dev swp0 master 00:01:02:03:04:05 dev swp0 master br0 and this also constitutes a better way (assuming a backport to stable kernels) for user space to determine whether the switchdev driver did actually act upon the dynamic FDB entry or not. Fixes: 6b26b51b1d13 ("net: bridge: Add support for notifying devices about FDB add/del") Link: https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20230327115206.jk5q5l753aoelwus at skbuf/ Signed-off-by: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean at nxp.com> --- net/bridge/br_switchdev.c | 4 ++++ 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+) diff --git a/net/bridge/br_switchdev.c b/net/bridge/br_switchdev.c index de18e9c1d7a7..0ec3d5e5e77d 100644 --- a/net/bridge/br_switchdev.c +++ b/net/bridge/br_switchdev.c @@ -148,6 +148,10 @@ br_switchdev_fdb_notify(struct net_bridge *br, if (test_bit(BR_FDB_LOCKED, &fdb->flags)) return; + if (test_bit(BR_FDB_ADDED_BY_USER, &fdb->flags) && + !test_bit(BR_FDB_STATIC, &fdb->flags)) + return; + br_switchdev_fdb_populate(br, &item, fdb, NULL); switch (type) { -- 2.34.1
Jesse Brandeburg
2023-Apr-11 15:30 UTC
[Bridge] [PATCH net] net: bridge: switchdev: don't notify FDB entries with "master dynamic"
On 4/10/2023 1:49 PM, Vladimir Oltean wrote:> There is a structural problem in switchdev, where the flag bits in > struct switchdev_notifier_fdb_info (added_by_user, is_local etc) only > represent a simplified / denatured view of what's in struct > net_bridge_fdb_entry :: flags (BR_FDB_ADDED_BY_USER, BR_FDB_LOCAL etc). > Each time we want to pass more information about struct > net_bridge_fdb_entry :: flags to struct switchdev_notifier_fdb_info > (here, BR_FDB_STATIC), we find that FDB entries were already notified to > switchdev with no regard to this flag, and thus, switchdev drivers had > no indication whether the notified entries were static or not. > > For example, this command: > > ip link add br0 type bridge && ip link set swp0 master br0 > bridge fdb add dev swp0 00:01:02:03:04:05 master dynamic > > causes a struct net_bridge_fdb_entry to be passed to > br_switchdev_fdb_notify() which has a single flag set: > BR_FDB_ADDED_BY_USER. > > This is further passed to the switchdev notifier chain, where interested > drivers have no choice but to assume this is a static FDB entry. > So currently, all drivers offload it to hardware as such. > > bridge fdb get 00:01:02:03:04:05 dev swp0 master > 00:01:02:03:04:05 dev swp0 offload master br0 > > The software FDB entry expires after the $ageing_time and the bridge > notifies its deletion as well, so it eventually disappears from hardware > too. > > This is a problem, because it is actually desirable to start offloading > "master dynamic" FDB entries correctly, and this is how the current > incorrect behavior was discovered. > > To see why the current behavior of "here's a static FDB entry when you > asked for a dynamic one" is incorrect, it is possible to imagine a > scenario like below, where this decision could lead to packet loss: > > Step 1: management prepares FDB entries like this: > > bridge fdb add dev swp0 ${MAC_A} master dynamic > bridge fdb add dev swp2 ${MAC_B} master dynamic > > br0 > / | \ > / | \ > swp0 swp1 swp2 > | | > A B > > Step 2: station A migrates to swp1 (assume that swp0's link doesn't flap > during that time so that the port isn't flushed, for example station A > was behind an intermediary switch): > > br0 > / | \ > / | \ > swp0 swp1 swp2 > | | | > A B > > Whenever A wants to ping B, its packets will be autonomously forwarded > by the switch (because ${MAC_B} is known). So the software will never > see packets from ${MAC_A} as source address, and will never know it > needs to invalidate the dynamic FDB entry towards swp0. As for the > hardware FDB entry, that's static, it doesn't move when the station > roams. > > So when B wants to reply to A's pings, the switch will forward those > replies to swp0 until the software bridge ages out its dynamic entry, > and that can cause connectivity loss for up to 5 minutes after roaming. > > With a correctly offloaded dynamic FDB entry, the switch would update > its entry for ${MAC_A} to be towards swp1 as soon as it sees packets > from it (no need for CPU intervention). > > Looking at tools/testing/selftests/net/forwarding/, there is no valid > use of the "bridge fdb add ... master dynamic" command there, so I am > fairly confident that no one used to rely on this behavior. > > With the change in place, these FDB entries are no longer offloaded: > > bridge fdb get 00:01:02:03:04:05 dev swp0 master > 00:01:02:03:04:05 dev swp0 master br0 > > and this also constitutes a better way (assuming a backport to stable > kernels) for user space to determine whether the switchdev driver did > actually act upon the dynamic FDB entry or not. > > Fixes: 6b26b51b1d13 ("net: bridge: Add support for notifying devices about FDB add/del") > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20230327115206.jk5q5l753aoelwus at skbuf/ > Signed-off-by: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean at nxp.com>Looks fine to me, but I'd like to see other switchdev experts reply. Reviewed-by: Jesse Brandeburg <jesse.brandeburg at intel.com>
Ido Schimmel
2023-Apr-12 14:15 UTC
[Bridge] [PATCH net] net: bridge: switchdev: don't notify FDB entries with "master dynamic"
On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 11:49:51PM +0300, Vladimir Oltean wrote:> There is a structural problem in switchdev, where the flag bits in > struct switchdev_notifier_fdb_info (added_by_user, is_local etc) only > represent a simplified / denatured view of what's in struct > net_bridge_fdb_entry :: flags (BR_FDB_ADDED_BY_USER, BR_FDB_LOCAL etc). > Each time we want to pass more information about struct > net_bridge_fdb_entry :: flags to struct switchdev_notifier_fdb_info > (here, BR_FDB_STATIC), we find that FDB entries were already notified to > switchdev with no regard to this flag, and thus, switchdev drivers had > no indication whether the notified entries were static or not. > > For example, this command: > > ip link add br0 type bridge && ip link set swp0 master br0 > bridge fdb add dev swp0 00:01:02:03:04:05 master dynamic > > causes a struct net_bridge_fdb_entry to be passed to > br_switchdev_fdb_notify() which has a single flag set: > BR_FDB_ADDED_BY_USER. > > This is further passed to the switchdev notifier chain, where interested > drivers have no choice but to assume this is a static FDB entry. > So currently, all drivers offload it to hardware as such. > > bridge fdb get 00:01:02:03:04:05 dev swp0 master > 00:01:02:03:04:05 dev swp0 offload master br0 > > The software FDB entry expires after the $ageing_time and the bridge > notifies its deletion as well, so it eventually disappears from hardware > too. > > This is a problem, because it is actually desirable to start offloading > "master dynamic" FDB entries correctly, and this is how the current > incorrect behavior was discovered. > > To see why the current behavior of "here's a static FDB entry when you > asked for a dynamic one" is incorrect, it is possible to imagine a > scenario like below, where this decision could lead to packet loss: > > Step 1: management prepares FDB entries like this: > > bridge fdb add dev swp0 ${MAC_A} master dynamic > bridge fdb add dev swp2 ${MAC_B} master dynamic > > br0 > / | \ > / | \ > swp0 swp1 swp2 > | | > A B > > Step 2: station A migrates to swp1 (assume that swp0's link doesn't flap > during that time so that the port isn't flushed, for example station A > was behind an intermediary switch): > > br0 > / | \ > / | \ > swp0 swp1 swp2 > | | | > A B > > Whenever A wants to ping B, its packets will be autonomously forwarded > by the switch (because ${MAC_B} is known). So the software will never > see packets from ${MAC_A} as source address, and will never know it > needs to invalidate the dynamic FDB entry towards swp0. As for the > hardware FDB entry, that's static, it doesn't move when the station > roams. > > So when B wants to reply to A's pings, the switch will forward those > replies to swp0 until the software bridge ages out its dynamic entry, > and that can cause connectivity loss for up to 5 minutes after roaming. > > With a correctly offloaded dynamic FDB entry, the switch would update > its entry for ${MAC_A} to be towards swp1 as soon as it sees packets > from it (no need for CPU intervention). > > Looking at tools/testing/selftests/net/forwarding/, there is no valid > use of the "bridge fdb add ... master dynamic" command there, so I am > fairly confident that no one used to rely on this behavior.Yes, but there are tests that use "extern_learn". If you post a v2 that takes "BR_FDB_ADDED_BY_EXT_LEARN" into account, then I can ask Petr to run it through our regression and report back (not sure we will make it to this week's PR though). Thanks> > With the change in place, these FDB entries are no longer offloaded: > > bridge fdb get 00:01:02:03:04:05 dev swp0 master > 00:01:02:03:04:05 dev swp0 master br0 > > and this also constitutes a better way (assuming a backport to stable > kernels) for user space to determine whether the switchdev driver did > actually act upon the dynamic FDB entry or not. > > Fixes: 6b26b51b1d13 ("net: bridge: Add support for notifying devices about FDB add/del") > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20230327115206.jk5q5l753aoelwus at skbuf/ > Signed-off-by: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean at nxp.com> > --- > net/bridge/br_switchdev.c | 4 ++++ > 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+) > > diff --git a/net/bridge/br_switchdev.c b/net/bridge/br_switchdev.c > index de18e9c1d7a7..0ec3d5e5e77d 100644 > --- a/net/bridge/br_switchdev.c > +++ b/net/bridge/br_switchdev.c > @@ -148,6 +148,10 @@ br_switchdev_fdb_notify(struct net_bridge *br, > if (test_bit(BR_FDB_LOCKED, &fdb->flags)) > return; > > + if (test_bit(BR_FDB_ADDED_BY_USER, &fdb->flags) && > + !test_bit(BR_FDB_STATIC, &fdb->flags)) > + return; > + > br_switchdev_fdb_populate(br, &item, fdb, NULL); > > switch (type) { > -- > 2.34.1 >
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