Hi
I have read the howto on qdisc''s a few times but I cant figure out how
to
use the shaping capabilities to serve my needs. In the village whera I
live we have created a wireless local network consisting of 10 houses. One
of these houses has an ADSL connection and services this connection to the
other houses. To gain access to the network a member must have an
accesspoint in client mode, the idea is that if each house has to use a
certain accesspoint (with a specific known ip address) to access the
router then it must be possible to shape the traffic so no single house
can dominate the out (and thus the incomming) traffic.
The configuration:
House with ADSL: A client house:
((o)) ((0))
| | (Known ip)
------------ eth0 ----| |---- --------
|Linux router|-------| AP | | AP |---| router |
| SuSE 8.2 | ---- ---- --------
------------ | |
| ------ ------
eth1 | | PC 1 | | PC 2 |
| ------ ------
__--__--__
| Internet |
----------
One house might need to connect 1 PC another house 3, but I need to be
sure that one house doesn''t swallow the whole bandwidth. Is this
possible?
Best Regards
Jakob Simon-Gaarde
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jakob@simon-gaarde.dk wrote:>Hi >I have read the howto on qdisc''s a few times but I cant figure out how to >use the shaping capabilities to serve my needs. In the village whera I >live we have created a wireless local network consisting of 10 houses. One >of these houses has an ADSL connection and services this connection to the >other houses. To gain access to the network a member must have an >accesspoint in client mode, the idea is that if each house has to use a >certain accesspoint (with a specific known ip address) to access the >router then it must be possible to shape the traffic so no single house >can dominate the out (and thus the incomming) traffic. > >The configuration: > >House with ADSL: A client house: > ((o)) ((0)) > | | (Known ip) > ------------ eth0 ----| |---- -------- >|Linux router|-------| AP | | AP |---| router | >| SuSE 8.2 | ---- ---- -------- > ------------ | | > | ------ ------ > eth1 | | PC 1 | | PC 2 | > | ------ ------ > __--__--__ > | Internet | > ---------- > >One house might need to connect 1 PC another house 3, but I need to be >sure that one house doesn''t swallow the whole bandwidth. Is this possible? > >Best Regards >Jakob Simon-Gaarde > > >_______________________________________________ >LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl >http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/ > >Hi, You can use the tc program, and htb qdiscs to ensure that people are guaranteed some bandwidth, so that one host cannot dominate the network.As it is the Internet link that is the weak point, you need to shape at the gateway. I am currently working on a script that deals out the bandwidth evenly amongst hosts, so that when only one host uses the link, it gets full speed, but if two are on it is 50/50, and so on. I hope to have it finished in a month or so. Maybe you can use that Also, if it is p2p traffic you are worried about, you could try the p2pshaper. I posted a link in a earlier post. cheers Nikolaj Fogh _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/
> jakob@simon-gaarde.dk wrote: > >>Hi >>I have read the howto on qdisc''s a few times but I cant figure out how to >>use the shaping capabilities to serve my needs. In the village whera I >>live we have created a wireless local network consisting of 10 houses. >> One >>of these houses has an ADSL connection and services this connection to >> the >>other houses. To gain access to the network a member must have an >>accesspoint in client mode, the idea is that if each house has to use a >>certain accesspoint (with a specific known ip address) to access the >>router then it must be possible to shape the traffic so no single house >>can dominate the out (and thus the incomming) traffic. >> >>The configuration: >> >>House with ADSL: A client house: >> ((o)) ((0)) >> | | (Known ip) >> ------------ eth0 ----| |---- -------- >>|Linux router|-------| AP | | AP |---| router | >>| SuSE 8.2 | ---- ---- -------- >> ------------ | | >> | ------ ------ >> eth1 | | PC 1 | | PC 2 | >> | ------ ------ >> __--__--__ >> | Internet | >> ---------- >> >>One house might need to connect 1 PC another house 3, but I need to be >>sure that one house doesn''t swallow the whole bandwidth. Is this >> possible? >> >>Best Regards >>Jakob Simon-Gaarde >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl >>http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/ >> >> > Hi, > > You can use the tc program, and htb qdiscs to ensure that people are > guaranteed some bandwidth, so that one host cannot dominate the > network.As it is the Internet link that is the weak point, you need to > shape at the gateway. > > I am currently working on a script that deals out the bandwidth evenly > amongst hosts, so that when only one host uses the link, it gets full > speed, but if two are on it is 50/50, and so on. I hope to have it > finished in a month or so. Maybe you can use that > > Also, if it is p2p traffic you are worried about, you could try the > p2pshaper. I posted a link in a earlier post. >That sounds very cool (and fair :) ) how do you plan to detect how many hosts are using the gateway? idle traffic or ping-like check? Some clients may have a hardware router on the other end so it is allways on-line though maybe being idle for hours. _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/
jakob@simon-gaarde.dk wrote:>>jakob@simon-gaarde.dk wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hi >>>I have read the howto on qdisc''s a few times but I cant figure out how to >>>use the shaping capabilities to serve my needs. In the village whera I >>>live we have created a wireless local network consisting of 10 houses. >>>One >>>of these houses has an ADSL connection and services this connection to >>>the >>>other houses. To gain access to the network a member must have an >>>accesspoint in client mode, the idea is that if each house has to use a >>>certain accesspoint (with a specific known ip address) to access the >>>router then it must be possible to shape the traffic so no single house >>>can dominate the out (and thus the incomming) traffic. >>> >>>The configuration: >>> >>>House with ADSL: A client house: >>> ((o)) ((0)) >>> | | (Known ip) >>>------------ eth0 ----| |---- -------- >>>|Linux router|-------| AP | | AP |---| router | >>>| SuSE 8.2 | ---- ---- -------- >>>------------ | | >>> | ------ ------ >>>eth1 | | PC 1 | | PC 2 | >>> | ------ ------ >>> __--__--__ >>>| Internet | >>> ---------- >>> >>>One house might need to connect 1 PC another house 3, but I need to be >>>sure that one house doesn''t swallow the whole bandwidth. Is this >>>possible? >>> >>>Best Regards >>>Jakob Simon-Gaarde >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl >>>http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Hi, >> >>You can use the tc program, and htb qdiscs to ensure that people are >>guaranteed some bandwidth, so that one host cannot dominate the >>network.As it is the Internet link that is the weak point, you need to >>shape at the gateway. >> >>I am currently working on a script that deals out the bandwidth evenly >>amongst hosts, so that when only one host uses the link, it gets full >>speed, but if two are on it is 50/50, and so on. I hope to have it >>finished in a month or so. Maybe you can use that >> >>Also, if it is p2p traffic you are worried about, you could try the >>p2pshaper. I posted a link in a earlier post. >> >> >> >That sounds very cool (and fair :) ) how do you plan to detect how many >hosts are using the gateway? idle traffic or ping-like check? Some clients >may have a hardware router on the other end so it is allways on-line >though maybe being idle for hours. >_______________________________________________ >LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl >http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/ > >At first I was thinking of making a patch to the linux kernel. That would be the "right" way of doing it. But it also requires people to patch kernels, and I''m not that much into kernel hacking at the moment. So actually, I just create a huge HTB tree and make rules for each host (hosts should be in the 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.0.255 range) that puts them into priorities according to how fast they are downloading. Fastest downloaders gets least priority. If I am not mistaken, this will make the bandwidth split very fair, because each host will be ensured at least their fraction of the bandwidth, while the others can borrow if you dont use your share. It might seem a bit cruel to make about 8 rules for each of the 255 hosts, but if it just works, it might not be so big a problem. AFAIK, most routers are doing nothing anyway, and can spare the extra cpu-cycles. And maybe it can be made smarter by using massive filtering. I will include some more documentation when I have completed the script. cheers, Nikolaj Fogh _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/
Am Monday 02 August 2004 00:27 schrieb jakob@simon-gaarde.dk:> In the village whera I live we have created a wireless local network > consisting of 10 houses. One of these houses has an ADSL connection and > services this connection to the other houses.Well, you could have a look at the existing shaper scripts, for example my own ;-) which deals with this kind of problem; however, I never tested it with WLAN, only in a cable-based LAN, where all clients are in the same subnet and all IPs are known. It''s located here: http://www.metamorpher.de/fairnat/ I''m still working on some new features like load balancing (multiple links), and dynamic IP (DHCP) support with multiple subnets, and firewall support, but those are still far away from being completed. My page also describes exactly the kind of setup I use, so even if the script is not useful to you, you might at least get some ideas on how to do shaping in your own situation. Andreas _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/