I can’t see your Icecast server from here, so it appears to be a port forwarding issue to me. From: Icecast [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Prince Naryk Sent: Thursday, 4 April 2019 12:44 a.m. To: Icecast streaming server user discussions Subject: Re: [Icecast] YP Directory Listing Concern Hi there! yes, i tried to change to localhost/127.0.0.1 when listening in my OWN network and it WORK. and no problem. BUT, how about those others who listen to my stream OUTSIDE from my network, I already shared them my PUBLIC IP then the port (e.g 8000) also the listenurl to be sure, but when they open the stream , it never loads. I already allow the rules for the INBOUND rules in my windows firewall in port 8000 , the port that i use in my stream. i think it really has to do with port forwarding. Any idea about this? Thanks! Best regards Prince On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 9:14 AM Ross Levis <ross at stationplaylist.com> wrote: Most likely because your router will not forward your public IP address on your LAN. You will need to substitute the IP with 127.0.0.1 when listening internally. From: Icecast [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Prince Naryk Sent: Wednesday, 3 April 2019 12:35 a.m. To: Icecast streaming server user discussions Subject: Re: [Icecast] YP Directory Listing Concern hi there I just wanna ask why I can't listen to my own stream when I listen using the listenurl given, but I was listen in the yp directory i give u some screenshots for you to see am i doing the right thing? On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 3:41 PM Thomas B. Rücker <thomas at ruecker.fi> wrote: Hi, On 3/29/19 6:34 AM, Prince Naryk wrote: but what if I don't use third party service is there any ways to stream in icecast publicly ? You need either of these: * your personal machine MUST be reachable from the public Internet By default this is NOT the case for most private internet connections. At the very least you would need to reconfigure a NAT-router. * an Internet exposed server (e.g. in the cloud) Setting either up is out of scope of this mailing list. We focus strictly on Icecast, the server software. On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 2:23 PM Prince Naryk <princekyran.pabate at gmail.com> wrote: hi, im so sorry i made you confuse, lets make things simple, i will attach here my config file (the passwords are the default for now). As I tried to point out before, this is NOT simple. Most of your trouble is with things that are not Icecast. For 'streaming to the internet' (and listing on YP) you MUST provide: * A publicly reachable TCP port (IPv6 and or IPv4) Please note that RFC1918 is NOT public (192.168..; 10...; 172.16-31..) Neither is RFC 6598 - 100.64... * A world wide resolvable DNS entry for the IP address(es) involved above Technically this is optional, but we STRONGLY recommend it. This mailing list will NOT help you with either of those two. You MUST provide this by yourself. If you need help with this, PLEASE seek it elsewhere. PLEASE do not attempt to discuss it on this list (request to all subscribers reading this). and see if this configuration will now work over the internet and can be heard publicly, I only change the hostname, also please check it if it's the correct one. As already pointed out in my last email this will NOT work with YP in the current form. I won't comment further. Please ensure the above mentioned prerequisites are in place before you try this again. Thomas PS: For other mailing list subscribers playing along at home: The RFC 1918/6598 network notation is intentionally wrong for simplicity and to avoid further confusion. thanks for your kind consideration. On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 2:06 PM Thomas B. Rücker <thomas at ruecker.fi> wrote: Hi, On 3/29/19 4:58 AM, Prince Naryk wrote:> is icecast not compatible with windows 10 ?Icecast works OK on Windows in general.> > On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 12:18 PM Prince Naryk > <princekyran.pabate at gmail.com <mailto:princekyran.pabate at gmail.com>> > wrote: > > my icecast.bat file won't run >you'd need to provide much more details for us to help you with this. Please keep in mind that we neither can see your screen, nor are we clairvoyant. Any error messages? What did you do/change?> > On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 9:41 AM Prince Naryk > <princekyran.pabate at gmail.com > <mailto:princekyran.pabate at gmail.com>> wrote: > > here are the screenshots do you think this work fine ? my > friends cant listen to my stream >You seem to be using your internal machine name. You'd need to use your *public* hostname under which your server is reachable from the internet.> > On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 8:57 AM Prince Naryk > <princekyran.pabate at gmail.com > <mailto:princekyran.pabate at gmail.com>> wrote: > > im using Listen2Myradio website to provide me the IP > server and password for Icecast > and I use Butt for the encoder where I also place the IP > server and the password provided from Listen2myradio site > to make work online. >You have now introduced something completely different to the situation. IF YOU ARE USING A THIRD PARTY SERVICE THEN YOU MUST CONFIGURE THAT, NOT YOUR PRIVATE SERVER. FOR HELP CONTACT THE SUPPORT OF YOUR SERVICE PROVIDER!> everything works fine, others can now listen to my stream > outside my network if only I gave them the stream link. >You must configure *that* service, not your private machine!> but my concern is my stream isn't connected on the YP > directory listing. >Contact listen2myradio support. We can not help you.> if i install icecast 2.4.4 it won't provide me IP server >I do not understand what you mean by this. This statement without further context does not make sense.> > On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 6:43 AM Prince Naryk > <princekyran.pabate at gmail.com > <mailto:princekyran.pabate at gmail.com>> wrote: > > something im still confused, im sorry a newbie here :) >I understand, but we can't teach you everything that you need to understand outside of Icecast. We certainly tried. But we are a community that focuses on Icecast. Please consider learning more about "the internet", "networks", "routers", "TCP/UDP services/servers". There are many educational resources on the Internet that can help you. I am sorry, but I can't point one specific out as I don't fully understand your needs. It might be best if you could find someone knowledgeable locally to help you learn those concepts. Please note that I have provided specific answers in context of each of your questions. 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Hi there, Im sorry I wasn't able to turn on my server that's why you were not able to find it on the yp list. my other concern also, I can now see my stream on the YP list and then few minutes later it will disappear from the list and then back again on the list, although my stream is still running, I can still open my icecast admin page. you can try check it just search : "icecast server" for you to see On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 9:03 PM Ross Levis <ross at stationplaylist.com> wrote:> I can’t see your Icecast server from here, so it appears to be a port > forwarding issue to me. > > From: Icecast [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Prince Naryk > Sent: Thursday, 4 April 2019 12:44 a.m. > To: Icecast streaming server user discussions > Subject: Re: [Icecast] YP Directory Listing Concern > > Hi there! > > yes, i tried to change to localhost/127.0.0.1 when listening in my OWN > network and it WORK. and no problem. > > BUT, how about those others who listen to my stream OUTSIDE from my > network, > I already shared them my PUBLIC IP then the port (e.g 8000) also the > listenurl to be sure, but when they open the stream , it never loads. > > I already allow the rules for the INBOUND rules in my windows firewall in > port 8000 , the port that i use in my stream. > i think it really has to do with port forwarding. > Any idea about this? > > Thanks! > > Best regards > > Prince > > On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 9:14 AM Ross Levis <ross at stationplaylist.com> > wrote: > Most likely because your router will not forward your public IP address on > your LAN. You will need to substitute the IP with 127.0.0.1 when listening > internally. > > From: Icecast [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Prince Naryk > Sent: Wednesday, 3 April 2019 12:35 a.m. > To: Icecast streaming server user discussions > Subject: Re: [Icecast] YP Directory Listing Concern > > hi there > > I just wanna ask why I can't listen to my own stream when I listen using > the listenurl given, > but I was listen in the yp directory > > i give u some screenshots for you to see > > am i doing the right thing? > > > > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 3:41 PM Thomas B. Rücker <thomas at ruecker.fi> > wrote: > Hi, > On 3/29/19 6:34 AM, Prince Naryk wrote: > but what if I don't use third party service is there any ways to stream in > icecast publicly ? > > You need either of these: > * your personal machine MUST be reachable from the public Internet > By default this is NOT the case for most private internet connections. > At the very least you would need to reconfigure a NAT-router. > * an Internet exposed server (e.g. in the cloud) > Setting either up is out of scope of this mailing list. We focus strictly > on Icecast, the server software. > > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 2:23 PM Prince Naryk <princekyran.pabate at gmail.com> > wrote: > hi, > im so sorry i made you confuse, > > lets make things simple, > i will attach here my config file (the passwords are the default for now). > > As I tried to point out before, this is NOT simple. Most of your trouble > is with things that are not Icecast. > For 'streaming to the internet' (and listing on YP) you MUST provide: > * A publicly reachable TCP port (IPv6 and or IPv4) > Please note that RFC1918 is NOT public (192.168..; 10...; 172.16-31..) > Neither is RFC 6598 - 100.64... > * A world wide resolvable DNS entry for the IP address(es) involved above > Technically this is optional, but we STRONGLY recommend it. > This mailing list will NOT help you with either of those two. You MUST > provide this by yourself. If you need help with this, PLEASE seek it > elsewhere. PLEASE do not attempt to discuss it on this list (request to all > subscribers reading this). > > and see if this configuration will now work over the internet and can be > heard publicly, > I only change the hostname, also please check it if it's the correct one. > > As already pointed out in my last email this will NOT work with YP in the > current form. I won't comment further. > Please ensure the above mentioned prerequisites are in place before you > try this again. > > Thomas > PS: For other mailing list subscribers playing along at home: The RFC > 1918/6598 network notation is intentionally wrong for simplicity and to > avoid further confusion. > > > thanks for your kind consideration. > > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 2:06 PM Thomas B. Rücker <thomas at ruecker.fi> > wrote: > Hi, > > On 3/29/19 4:58 AM, Prince Naryk wrote: > > is icecast not compatible with windows 10 ? > > > Icecast works OK on Windows in general. > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 12:18 PM Prince Naryk > > <princekyran.pabate at gmail.com <mailto:princekyran.pabate at gmail.com>> > > wrote: > > > > my icecast.bat file won't run > > > > you'd need to provide much more details for us to help you with this. > Please keep in mind that we neither can see your screen, nor are we > clairvoyant. Any error messages? What did you do/change? > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 9:41 AM Prince Naryk > > <princekyran.pabate at gmail.com > > <mailto:princekyran.pabate at gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > here are the screenshots do you think this work fine ? my > > friends cant listen to my stream > > > > You seem to be using your internal machine name. You'd need to use your > *public* hostname under which your server is reachable from the internet. > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 8:57 AM Prince Naryk > > <princekyran.pabate at gmail.com > > <mailto:princekyran.pabate at gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > im using Listen2Myradio website to provide me the IP > > server and password for Icecast > > and I use Butt for the encoder where I also place the IP > > server and the password provided from Listen2myradio site > > to make work online. > > > > You have now introduced something completely different to the situation. > > IF YOU ARE USING A THIRD PARTY SERVICE THEN YOU MUST CONFIGURE THAT, NOT > YOUR PRIVATE SERVER. > FOR HELP CONTACT THE SUPPORT OF YOUR SERVICE PROVIDER! > > > > everything works fine, others can now listen to my stream > > outside my network if only I gave them the stream link. > > > > You must configure *that* service, not your private machine! > > > > > but my concern is my stream isn't connected on the YP > > directory listing. > > > > Contact listen2myradio support. We can not help you. > > > > > if i install icecast 2.4.4 it won't provide me IP server > > > > I do not understand what you mean by this. This statement without > further context does not make sense. > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 6:43 AM Prince Naryk > > <princekyran.pabate at gmail.com > > <mailto:princekyran.pabate at gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > something im still confused, im sorry a newbie here :) > > > > I understand, but we can't teach you everything that you need to > understand outside of Icecast. We certainly tried. But we are a > community that focuses on Icecast. > > Please consider learning more about "the internet", "networks", > "routers", "TCP/UDP services/servers". There are many educational > resources on the Internet that can help you. I am sorry, but I can't > point one specific out as I don't fully understand your needs. It might > be best if you could find someone knowledgeable locally to help you > learn those concepts. > > > Please note that I have provided specific answers in context of each of > your questions. 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Hi, On 4/4/19 1:44 AM, Prince Naryk wrote:> Hi there, > Im sorry I wasn't able to turn on my server that's why you were not > able to find it on the yp list. > > my other concern also, I can now see my stream on the YP list and then > few minutes later it will disappear from the list and then back again > on the list, > although my stream is still running, I can still open my icecast admin > page.*Let me at this point quote the first reply in this thread:* Please refer to this bit of documentation (not yet in the released documentation at this time): https://icecast.org/docs/icecast-trunk/yp/ It describes the process in great detail, so that you should be able to figure things out by yourself quickly. *Specifically the section on troubleshooting advises:* As with all Icecast problems, the error log is the goto place to start. If necessary temporary increase the log level to 4 (debug) and reload the Icecast config. All relevant messages will contain YP. Especially those messages that tell you that something failed will contain important hints and or messages from the YP server. If your entry submission is directly rejected the server will tell why, if your entry gets delisted after submission, then you will see updates/touches fail. Depending on the YP server the stream reachability check will be deferred, so you will see a successful initial submission, but if your stream is found to be unreachable it will be delisted and updates will fail. Please note that YP directories will check both IPv6 and IPv4 availability of streams. See the list of common misconfigurations for further hints. I'm reasonably sure that you are on a residential Internet connection that from time to time changes its public IPv4 address. Advertising your "business" at an address where it no longer "lives" doesn't work and listings get removed. For such reasons we strongly recommend to use host names resolvable in public DNS. The keyword is "dynamic DNS", please read up about it and implement it, it is out of the scope of this mailing list. Please read and follow the documentation. Asking questions that are clearly answered by the documentation is rude and shows a lack of respect for the time and effort of the people trying to help you. Cheers, Thomas