Icecast - Oct 2004 - Dlink DSM 320

Leo Currie wrote:
> Greg Trounson wrote:
> 
>> Gidday,
>>
>> I have a winamp 2.95 source that cannot upload the stream to my 
>> icecast server.
> 
> 
> I'm assuming you're trying the Nullsoft Shoutcast DSP plugin.
That's the one.
>> Since icecast is compatible with shoutcast surely a winamp source 
>> should be able to connect?
> 
> 
> I'm afraid not, but this is because Icecast uses mountpoints, which
lets
> you specify multiple streams per server, e.g:
>     my-server.com:8000/radiohiband.ogg
>     my-server.com:8000/radioloband.ogg
>     my-server.com:8000/demo_mp3
> etc.
> 
> This is in contrast to SHOUTCast which provides only a single stream per 
> server instance. (so for the above example, you'd need to run 3 copies 
> of SHOUTCast on 6 different ports, except of course you can't stream in
> vorbis!)
> 
The problem is that I have someone who insists on using the win32/winamp 
combination as the source, and I'd rather use icecast as the server 
instead of the nullsoft shoutcast implementation.

You say above that I'd need to run 3 copies of shoutcast on 6 ports to 
handle 3 streams, so is it possible to use SHOUTCast send a single 
stream to an icecast server?
> 
> Try the Oddcast plugin instead -
> 
> http://www.oddsock.org/tools/oddcastv2_wa2/
Thanks, I'll give that a go for my own tinkering.

Greg

Greg Trounson wrote:

[snip]
> The problem is that I have someone who insists on using the win32/winamp 
> combination as the source, and I'd rather use icecast as the server 
> instead of the nullsoft shoutcast implementation.
Absolutely. I wasn't suggesting that you use SHOUTCast - I was trying to 
give an example of why Icecast is more flexible, and how the SHOUTCast 
plugin is limited to streaming *only* to SHOUTCast servers.
> You say above that I'd need to run 3 copies of shoutcast on 6 ports to 
> handle 3 streams, so is it possible to use SHOUTCast send a single 
> stream to an icecast server?
I think it is *possible* to relay several SHOUTCast servers from 
Icecast, but thats not what I'm suggesting.

The oddcast plugin lets you stream Vorbis or MP3 to an Icecast server 
from Winamp. You can combine it with a plugin stacker to invoke multiple 
instances of Oddcast from the same instance of Winamp to stream various 
combinations of bitrate/format of the same content to a single Icecast 
server, on various mountpoints.

(BTW - you can also achieve this with the commercial Spacial Audio plugin.)

Leo

Well i did it, i finally broke down and bought a hardware based media 
player, the dlink dsm 320.
Not only can i watch my dvds from my pc, but listen to my 30+gb ogg vorbis 
collection,
create a playlist file (.pls format) with shoutcast and icecast2 streams 
(mp3 only) and crank them
through the home theatre system.
Just a heads up though, even though it supports shoutcast and icecast2 mp3, 
the ogg vorbis streaming
doesn't work, it plays for about 4 seconds then pops a window up stating 
file format not supported.
Sounds like they made the ogg vorbis decoder do cbr or bitrate management 
instead of quality,
not entirely sure though., maybe if we all fire over some emails to 
dlink.com they will address
this issue in there next firmware version.

Hopefully with the next firmware version they will have fixed the ogg vorbis 
icecast2 streaming
issue, we are so close to seeing icecast2 and ogg vorbis streaming take 
off!! like shoutcast
and mp3 has.

All in all i recommend this product, definitely worth a mention on 
vorbis.com for support of ogg vorbis files
and icecast2 mp3 streaming.


Dave St John
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