Michael Smith wrote:> On Tuesday 03 February 2004 15:16, oddsock wrote: > >>it would be true to say that yes, you could stream NSV or other video types >>with this manner (assuming that they don't need special stream processing, >>NSV does not, something like Ogg-Theora probably would)...the main problem >>is the issue of a source client. Currently, there is only one (that I know >>of) source client that will encode and send NSV, and that is the one that >>will only connect to shoutcast and uses shoutcast's proprietary method and >>customization of HTTP for it's connection protocol. Icecast currently does > > > For the record: shoutcast's protocol is not a 'customization of HTTP'. It > superficially looks somewhat similar, but actually isn't. At all - which is > why icecast doesn't support it - it's a lot of pain for very little gain.video streaming was one of the things i had in mind, together with speex support (i had asked about that in another posting, but it went unnoticed...) will icecast eventually be able to stream all of ogg {vorbis|theora|speex} ? <p>excuse the off-topic request, but does anyone around here have experience with video streaming under linux, preferably with open-source tools? if you do, would you share it with me? (since this is not really icecast-related, please consider to contact me in private mail, i will summarize your messages to the list to keep the noise down.) <p>thanks to your helpful replies so far! all the best, jörn <p> -- "I never use EQ, never, never, never. I previously used to use mic positioning but I've even given up on that too." - Jezar on http://www.audiomelody.com <p>Jörn Nettingsmeier Kurfürstenstr 49, 45138 Essen, Germany http://spunk.dnsalias.org (my server) http://www.linuxaudiodev.org (Linux Audio Developers) <p><p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
If you want to stream video through Icecast, you should consider the FLV format. FLV is the new video format for Flash 2004. It means the final client will be just the regular flash plug-in (installed on almost every computer connected to the internet). Unfortunately, I am not sure there is a live FLV encoder yet that could act as a source. Cheers, MAX -----Original Message----- From: owner-icecast@xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast@xiph.org] On Behalf Of Michael Smith Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 5:56 AM To: icecast@xiph.org Subject: Re: [icecast] does icecast care what it streams? On Tuesday 03 February 2004 15:16, oddsock wrote:> it would be true to say that yes, you could stream NSV or other videotypes> with this manner (assuming that they don't need special stream processing, > NSV does not, something like Ogg-Theora probably would)...the main problem > is the issue of a source client. Currently, there is only one (that Iknow> of) source client that will encode and send NSV, and that is the one that > will only connect to shoutcast and uses shoutcast's proprietary method and > customization of HTTP for it's connection protocol. Icecast currentlydoes For the record: shoutcast's protocol is not a 'customization of HTTP'. It superficially looks somewhat similar, but actually isn't. At all - which is why icecast doesn't support it - it's a lot of pain for very little gain. Mike --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. <p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
On Tuesday 03 February 2004 15:16, oddsock wrote:> it would be true to say that yes, you could stream NSV or other video types > with this manner (assuming that they don't need special stream processing, > NSV does not, something like Ogg-Theora probably would)...the main problem > is the issue of a source client. Currently, there is only one (that I know > of) source client that will encode and send NSV, and that is the one that > will only connect to shoutcast and uses shoutcast's proprietary method and > customization of HTTP for it's connection protocol. Icecast currently doesFor the record: shoutcast's protocol is not a 'customization of HTTP'. It superficially looks somewhat similar, but actually isn't. At all - which is why icecast doesn't support it - it's a lot of pain for very little gain. Mike --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 10:29:46AM +0100, Joern Nettingsmeier wrote:> will icecast eventually be able to stream all of ogg > {vorbis|theora|speex} ?I'd certainly like it to, and plan to implement this if no one beats me to it. BTW, theora streams are I think a use case for tcp streaming of speex over ogg. The bandwidth savings for conference presentations and the like will be worthwhile, and theora itself really wants a reliable transport at low datarates. I also think being able to archive talks by just saving the http stream is as valuable with speex as with vorbis. -r --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.