Icecast - Aug 2004 - Re: [icecast-dev] Hot Topic: Icecast in Macromedia Flash

Hi Moritz,
Thanks for everything.
About the log line:
192.168.0.3 - - [27/Nov/2003:04:42:58 Romance Standard Time] "GET /mystream
 HTTP/1.1" 200 328981 "(null)" "-" 13712464

How can I set up my php script to send hardcoded header information for the
parameter "referrer"? Do you think the value: 
fputs($sock, "referrer: "-"\n");

hould be OK?

Also, does anybody know what the last number (13712464) in the log is? It is
not the number of the log line because this number was recurrent on several
tests.

MAX

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To: icecast@xiph.org
Subject: [icecast] Re: [icecast-dev] Hot Topic: Icecast in Macromedia Flash

Hi,

<p>I moved this to icecast@, since none of these are icecast development
related questions and issues.

Macsym wrote:
> I didn't know so many people in the Icecast-Dev list were running Linux
PPC!

Oh well, I'm neither a developer nor running Linux PPC. ;)
> Anyway, I understand that you guys don't have the time to help me with
that
> because you wouldn't be able to run the flash player anyway! Because of
> that, I think I will send the topic to the regular Icecast mailing list
> (where I might find more people running Linux, Mac OS or Windows).
I have some Windows boxes around where I have Flashplayer installed.
However, since I'm switching OSes faster than my socks (I am
multi-booting), and I am not *allowed* to install/use Flash on the other
most important OS (OpenBSD, even though it would work), I am avoiding
flashy sites as good as possible. I can't say I find Flash's
discriminating license or its habit of eating CPU cycles and RAM
appealing at all.

Actually, I believe your Flash-based streaming client is only good to
obfuscate the real address of the streaming server, to keep people from
easily dumping the stream to disk or just play it in their favorite
player...
> There are still some kinds of information I can only get from the dev
list:
> 
> -Does anybody know where I can find a document that explains the changes
in
> the core architecture between Icecast1 and Icecast2 (Flash was working
with
> Icecast1)?
Hey, I can answer that! :)

Everything is different, Icecast 2 is a re-write.
> -Does Icecast need to receive some kinds of headers from the player before
> sending the stream? If yes, what are these headers?
Nothing special that I know of - it's plain HTTP, and clients only need
to send a simple GET request to start listening to a stream. Others may
slap me now for spreading false information, however, I'm pretty sure
I'm close to the mark.
> -Can somebody translate me this access log line:
> 192.168.0.3 - - [27/Nov/2003:04:42:58 Romance Standard Time] "GET
/mystream
> HTTP/1.1" 200 328981 "(null)" "-" 13712464
200 is the return code the server replied. 200 means "OK", iirc. The
other number is the amount of bytes transferred, (null) is what the
server got from the client as the referer (it should be "-" for
"no
referer") and "-" is a place holder for the user-agent, which the
client
should've sent. However, I do not know what the final number is supposed
to mean ... I don't know it from Apache, and my icecast access.log
usually has that one as a zero, but not always.

<p>Moritz
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Here is some code i wrote to send a mp3 file to a shoutcast server, with a
little modification im sure you could change it and use it to connect to
icecast2 and write various things etc... not sure but here it is
------------------------------------------------------
<?php
$port = '8000';
$ip = '127.0.0.1';
$fileplay = './whatever.mp3';
$password = 'changme' //password to access server
 

$socket = socket_create(AF_INET,SOCK_STREAM,SOL_TCP); // Create the Socket
$connection =
socket_connect($socket,''.$ip.'',''.$port.');
//connect to the SHOUTcast server

while($connection = socket_read($socket,2046)) 
{ 
$filesz = filesize(''.$fileplay.'');//enter in a single filename
here in same directory or enter in full path
$fp = fopen (''.$fileplay.'', "rb"); 
$fr = fread ($fp, $filesz);
socket_write($connection,"$password\r\n");
socket_write($connection,"Content-Type:audio/mpeg\r\n"); //ogg is
application/ogg
socket_write($connection,"Cache-Control:no-cache\r\n");
socket_write($connection,"Pragma:no-cache\r\n");
socket_write($connection,"Connection:close\r\n");
socket_write($connection,"icy-notice1:test1\r\n"); 
socket_write($connection,"icy-notice2:test2\r\n");
socket_write($connection,"icy-name:test server\r\n");
socket_write($connection,"icy-genre:industrial\r\n");
socket_write($connection,"$fr\r\n");
socket_write($connection,"Connection:keep-alive\r\n");
socket_write($connection,"icy-br:128\r\n\r\n"); 

<p><p>} 
?>
--------------------------------------------------------

php must be compile with socket support i.e. '--with-sockets'
otherwise the above will not work.
the icy headers apparently will work as well, search the mailing list as i
discussed this a few days or weeks ago, to much code netween now and then
to remember the exact date ;)

<p><p>Dave St John
Mediacast1 Administration
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Macsym" <macsym69@yahoo.fr>
To: <icecast@xiph.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 10:54 AM
Subject: RE: [icecast] Re: [icecast-dev] Hot Topic: Icecast in MacromediaFlash

<p>> Hi Moritz,
> Thanks for everything.
> About the log line:
> 192.168.0.3 - - [27/Nov/2003:04:42:58 Romance Standard Time] "GET
/mystream
>  HTTP/1.1" 200 328981 "(null)" "-" 13712464
> 
> How can I set up my php script to send hardcoded header information for the
> parameter "referrer"? Do you think the value: 
> fputs($sock, "referrer: "-"\n");
> 
> should be OK?
> 
> Also, does anybody know what the last number (13712464) in the log is? It
is
> not the number of the log line because this number was recurrent on several
> tests.
> 
> MAX
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-icecast@xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast@xiph.org] On Behalf Of
> gtgbr@gmx.net
> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 11:20 AM
> To: icecast@xiph.org
> Subject: [icecast] Re: [icecast-dev] Hot Topic: Icecast in Macromedia Flash
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> I moved this to icecast@, since none of these are icecast development
> related questions and issues.
> 
> Macsym wrote:
> > I didn't know so many people in the Icecast-Dev list were running
Linux
> PPC!
> 
> Oh well, I'm neither a developer nor running Linux PPC. ;)
> 
> > Anyway, I understand that you guys don't have the time to help me
with
> that
> > because you wouldn't be able to run the flash player anyway!
Because of
> > that, I think I will send the topic to the regular Icecast mailing
list
> > (where I might find more people running Linux, Mac OS or Windows).
> 
> I have some Windows boxes around where I have Flashplayer installed.
> However, since I'm switching OSes faster than my socks (I am
> multi-booting), and I am not *allowed* to install/use Flash on the other
> most important OS (OpenBSD, even though it would work), I am avoiding
> flashy sites as good as possible. I can't say I find Flash's
> discriminating license or its habit of eating CPU cycles and RAM
> appealing at all.
> 
> Actually, I believe your Flash-based streaming client is only good to
> obfuscate the real address of the streaming server, to keep people from
> easily dumping the stream to disk or just play it in their favorite
> player...
> 
> > There are still some kinds of information I can only get from the dev
> list:
> > 
> > -Does anybody know where I can find a document that explains the
changes
> in
> > the core architecture between Icecast1 and Icecast2 (Flash was working
> with
> > Icecast1)?
> 
> Hey, I can answer that! :)
> 
> Everything is different, Icecast 2 is a re-write.
> 
> > -Does Icecast need to receive some kinds of headers from the player
before
> > sending the stream? If yes, what are these headers?
> 
> Nothing special that I know of - it's plain HTTP, and clients only need
> to send a simple GET request to start listening to a stream. Others may
> slap me now for spreading false information, however, I'm pretty sure
> I'm close to the mark.
> 
> > -Can somebody translate me this access log line:
> > 192.168.0.3 - - [27/Nov/2003:04:42:58 Romance Standard Time] "GET
> /mystream
> > HTTP/1.1" 200 328981 "(null)" "-" 13712464
> 
> 200 is the return code the server replied. 200 means "OK", iirc.
The
> other number is the amount of bytes transferred, (null) is what the
> server got from the client as the referer (it should be "-" for
"no
> referer") and "-" is a place holder for the user-agent,
which the client
> should've sent. However, I do not know what the final number is
supposed
> to mean ... I don't know it from Apache, and my icecast access.log
> usually has that one as a zero, but not always.
> 
> 
> Moritz
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Macsym wrote:
> About the log line:
> 192.168.0.3 - - [27/Nov/2003:04:42:58 Romance Standard Time] "GET
/mystream
>  HTTP/1.1" 200 328981 "(null)" "-" 13712464
> 
> How can I set up my php script to send hardcoded header information for the
> parameter "referrer"? Do you think the value:
> fputs($sock, "referrer: "-"\n");
I have no idea, maybe someone with PHP and HTTP knowledge can help. I
am, however, quite sure that your idea here is wrong - either the
referer (three, not four r's) gets supplied to the
"make-a-http-connection" function as a parameter, or it's a
separate
line (probably) with a certain, HTTPish syntax. Maybe yours is close to
it. ;P Again, someone else may know much more than me here.

In any case, I wouldn't worry too much - I mean, Icecast doesn't crash,
it seems to work ...

<p>Moritz

P.S.: I really wonder why the lists stop sending me my own mails back
... :/ I never know if and when something from me arrives.
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Hi,

<p>I moved this to icecast@, since none of these are icecast development
related questions and issues.

Macsym wrote:
> I didn't know so many people in the Icecast-Dev list were running Linux
PPC!
Oh well, I'm neither a developer nor running Linux PPC. ;)
> Anyway, I understand that you guys don't have the time to help me with
that
> because you wouldn't be able to run the flash player anyway! Because of
> that, I think I will send the topic to the regular Icecast mailing list
> (where I might find more people running Linux, Mac OS or Windows).
I have some Windows boxes around where I have Flashplayer installed.
However, since I'm switching OSes faster than my socks (I am
multi-booting), and I am not *allowed* to install/use Flash on the other
most important OS (OpenBSD, even though it would work), I am avoiding
flashy sites as good as possible. I can't say I find Flash's
discriminating license or its habit of eating CPU cycles and RAM
appealing at all.

Actually, I believe your Flash-based streaming client is only good to
obfuscate the real address of the streaming server, to keep people from
easily dumping the stream to disk or just play it in their favorite
player...
> There are still some kinds of information I can only get from the dev list:
> 
> -Does anybody know where I can find a document that explains the changes in
> the core architecture between Icecast1 and Icecast2 (Flash was working with
> Icecast1)?
Hey, I can answer that! :)

Everything is different, Icecast 2 is a re-write.
> -Does Icecast need to receive some kinds of headers from the player before
> sending the stream? If yes, what are these headers?
Nothing special that I know of - it's plain HTTP, and clients only need
to send a simple GET request to start listening to a stream. Others may
slap me now for spreading false information, however, I'm pretty sure
I'm close to the mark.
> -Can somebody translate me this access log line:
> 192.168.0.3 - - [27/Nov/2003:04:42:58 Romance Standard Time] "GET
/mystream
> HTTP/1.1" 200 328981 "(null)" "-" 13712464
200 is the return code the server replied. 200 means "OK", iirc. The
other number is the amount of bytes transferred, (null) is what the
server got from the client as the referer (it should be "-" for
"no
referer") and "-" is a place holder for the user-agent, which the
client
should've sent. However, I do not know what the final number is supposed
to mean ... I don't know it from Apache, and my icecast access.log
usually has that one as a zero, but not always.

<p>Moritz
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