hi all I use ices0.2.3/icecast1.3.12 on a linux box. I stream mp3 . I would like to make my listeners to discover ogg . My tracks are all in mp3 format. i reencode from 128/96 kbs and 44100Hz => 16kbs and 11kHz ( mp3 ) Is it possible , ( if yes tell me how ) to feed icecast with both mp3 and ogg stream , at different mount points . how to configure ices to play ogg ? i know i'll have to run 2 different ices so how to manage ? by indicating in the command line the conf_file to read for each launched ices ? As well as my tracks are mp3 , is it necesary to have the same track both in mp3 AND ogg ???? or is it possible to encode to ogg on the fly and feed icecast ? <p><p><p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
On Fri, 2002-12-20 at 12:56, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote:> hi all I use ices0.2.3/icecast1.3.12 on a linux box. > I stream mp3 . > I would like to make my listeners to discover ogg . > My tracks are all in mp3 format. > i reencode from 128/96 kbs and 44100Hz => 16kbs and 11kHz ( mp3 ) > Is it possible , ( if yes tell me how ) to feed icecast with both mp3 > and ogg stream , at different mount points .I doubt icecast 1.3.12 will relay vorbis. icecast2 will do vorbis and mp3 (IIRC).> how to configure ices to play ogg ? i know i'll have to run 2 different > ices so how to manage ? by indicating in the command line the conf_file > to read for each launched ices ?well ices2 doesn't do mp3 at the moment, but it's good enough to do vorbis well, and using multiple settings. So you can run that along side any other source for mp3.> As well as my tracks are mp3 , is it necesary to have the same track > both in mp3 AND ogg ???? or is it possible to encode to ogg on the fly > and feed icecast ?no it isn't, however there are a few issues to be careful of. You will be transcoding from one lossy format to another so be wary of the quality. The other is that because ices doesn't do mp3 currently you need to have something external doing file selection and decoding then feed the output (PCM) into the stdinpcm module. A shell script should suffice here. karl. <p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote:> hi all I use ices0.2.3/icecast1.3.12 on a linux box. > I stream mp3 . > I would like to make my listeners to discover ogg . > My tracks are all in mp3 format. > i reencode from 128/96 kbs and 44100Hz => 16kbs and 11kHz ( mp3 ) > Is it possible , ( if yes tell me how ) to feed icecast with both mp3 > and ogg stream , at different mount points .You need to use Icecast2 for that. I forgot where Mike's distribution tarballs et al for 2.0alpha are, but the CVS checkout procedure on http://www.xiph.org/cvs.html isn't hard either. You'd want to checkout the 'icecast' module. Don't use the icecast.org CVS repository, it's way outdated.> how to configure ices to play ogg ? i know i'll have to run 2 different > ices so how to manage ? by indicating in the command line the conf_file > to read for each launched ices ?You need Ices2 for that. Same game like for Icecast2, except that the modules you should check out and install are 'libshout' and 'ices' (in that order), both from Xiph.org CVS. Like this: $ cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs@xiph.org:/usr/local/cvsroot login Logging in to :pserver:anoncvs@xiph.org:2401/usr/local/cvsroot CVS password: $ cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs@xiph.org:/usr/local/cvsroot co libshout ices [...] The password is "anoncvs", without the quotes. You can add "icecast" (also w/o quotes) to the line with the 'co' to get everything with one command - I just didn't put it in because of the 72 chars linewrapping in the mail.> As well as my tracks are mp3 , is it necesary to have the same track > both in mp3 AND ogg ???? or is it possible to encode to ogg on the fly > and feed icecast ?The re-encoding stuff is possible, but note that this takes a lot of CPU power. Your box might not be fast enough to do both at the same time. You might have to do the encoding stuff on a separate, fast computer. You don't have to mind Icecast2 itself, it takes only very little for what it does. <p>Moritz --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
That's fine and all for people who run the latest WinAmp or XMMS that do
support Ogg Vorbis (aside from the vanilla Red Hat 8.0 users), but some
of us must stream in .mp3 format. That is what the users expect.
I am guessing, however, and look to have some time today to try and
implement this, that I can dual stream on my Icecast box while running
icecast 1.3.12 on port 8000 and then set up a separate directory with
the latest CVS releases installed in other bin/ directories and then
stream on port 8001 in .ogg format.
I have been successful in getting both to work individually on separate
boxes, but don't know about streaming off the same box.
FYI,
I also created a document detailing our installation woes with
instructions for anyone interested. If anyone wants to contribute back
to this, have at it. It's just in Star Office 6.0 (Open Office 1.0.1)
format and converted to Word 2000 as well.
http://quasi.ksl.com/icecast/
I haven't had time to migrate it into HTML (Star Office's rendition was
hideous). This is just a precursor to a more detailed explanation I
hope to create soon, though I hope this early version helps someone.
KJ
On Fri, 2002-12-20 at 09:48, Geoff Shang wrote:> Hi:
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> As for streaming MP3 and OGG, one thing you might want to do is have
> everything in OGG. Ices2 of course will read it just fine and ices 0.2.3
> can take ogg files as input. So this might well be a good way to go.
>
> Geoff.
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Hi: As for streaming MP3 and OGG, one thing you might want to do is have everything in OGG. Ices2 of course will read it just fine and ices 0.2.3 can take ogg files as input. So this might well be a good way to go. Geoff. <p> -- Geoff Shang <gshang@uq.net.au> ICQ number 43634701 Make sure your E-mail can be read by everyone! http://www.betips.net/etc/evilmail.html Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html <p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.