fwiw
erver icecast 1.3.7 / ices 0.0.1beta5
erver on a dsl line (384kbps)
client on a LAN separate to it going through several hops
winamp has the drop client problems. And recently another weird problem,
it spawns with only one channel balance way over to the right. this can
suck if your windows has no balance control for its audio!
onique: stays connected for hours and hours
xmms/unix . stays connected for days
winamp sucks the llamas dick, i like its user interface a lot better than
sonique, but sonique is definitely more functional. under winduhs. which
unfortunately is my only option from work ....
On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Kelly Lee Myers wrote:
> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 05:11:41 -0800
> From: Kelly Lee Myers <k_myers at kyxpyx.com>
> Reply-To: icecast at xiph.org
> To: icecast at xiph.org
> Subject: Re: [icecast] connection problem
>
> I am pretty sure that the integrity of my mp3's is okay. I know that
music
> match shreds the mp3 data and produces mp3 files that are not ISO
compliant.
> I always use WaveLab and the radium codec to encode my sets and enable the
> ISO compatibility option at all times. This problem only seemed to come
> about with winamp 2.7 but if sonique is doing it to, I don't know...
> What about relaying? Do streams get dropped in a similar manner in relay
> setup? If so then it would be network code or the network itself related.
> All of my test were done over the lan or locally on the same box using a
> duplicate instance of winamp to tune into the server and produced the same
> results. When done over the net served off of cable, to Palo Alto and back
> to Vancouver, Canada on my ADSL modem I got the same problem happening
> around the same time... If XMMS is not doing it then this leads me to
> believe that either the networking code in winamp 2.7 is shot (again) or
> it's the new decoder engine over 2.64 cause I never had this kind of
problem
> with that version and used the same mp3 files for streaming then and now
> encoded with ISO compatibility.
>
> Just trying to eliminate some possibilities here...
>
> Lithium
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas Kirk" <thomas at arkena.com>
> To: <icecast at xiph.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 3:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [icecast] connection problem
>
>
> > Hey there again
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 12:16:12PM +0100, Thomas Vander Stichele
wrote:
> >
> >
> > > The tests I've done in-house were with winamp as a client,
and the
> > > following server/streamer combinations :
> > > icecast 1.3.0/shout 0.8.0
> > > icecast 1.3.7/shout 0.8.0
> > > icecast 1.3.8b2/shout 0.8.0
> >
> > dont use shout! its buggy use ices or use libshout
> >
> > > icecast 1.3.8b2/ices 0.0.5
> >
> > another thing could be your mp3s? Have you checked their integrity?
Its
> very
> > important that they are 100% right go and fetch mp3check from
freshmeat or
> > some other tool that will test their quality. Use cdparanoia when you
rip
> > and lame when you encode.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Venlig hilsen/Kind regards
> > Thomas Kirk
> > thomas at arkena.com
> > http://www.arkena.com
> >
> >
> > It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be
> > unhappy.
> > -- Groucho Marx
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I am pretty sure that the integrity of my mp3's is okay. I know that music match shreds the mp3 data and produces mp3 files that are not ISO compliant. I always use WaveLab and the radium codec to encode my sets and enable the ISO compatibility option at all times. This problem only seemed to come about with winamp 2.7 but if sonique is doing it to, I don't know... What about relaying? Do streams get dropped in a similar manner in relay setup? If so then it would be network code or the network itself related. All of my test were done over the lan or locally on the same box using a duplicate instance of winamp to tune into the server and produced the same results. When done over the net served off of cable, to Palo Alto and back to Vancouver, Canada on my ADSL modem I got the same problem happening around the same time... If XMMS is not doing it then this leads me to believe that either the networking code in winamp 2.7 is shot (again) or it's the new decoder engine over 2.64 cause I never had this kind of problem with that version and used the same mp3 files for streaming then and now encoded with ISO compatibility. Just trying to eliminate some possibilities here... Lithium ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Kirk" <thomas@arkena.com> To: <icecast@xiph.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 3:46 AM Subject: Re: [icecast] connection problem> Hey there again > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 12:16:12PM +0100, Thomas Vander Stichele wrote: > > > > The tests I've done in-house were with winamp as a client, and the > > following server/streamer combinations : > > icecast 1.3.0/shout 0.8.0 > > icecast 1.3.7/shout 0.8.0 > > icecast 1.3.8b2/shout 0.8.0 > > dont use shout! its buggy use ices or use libshout > > > icecast 1.3.8b2/ices 0.0.5 > > another thing could be your mp3s? Have you checked their integrity? Itsvery> important that they are 100% right go and fetch mp3check from freshmeat or > some other tool that will test their quality. Use cdparanoia when you rip > and lame when you encode. > > > > -- > Venlig hilsen/Kind regards > Thomas Kirk > thomas@arkena.com > http://www.arkena.com > > > It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be > unhappy. > -- Groucho Marx > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to'icecast-request@xiph.org'> containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. >--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
At 10:29 3/1/2001 -0800, you wrote:>fwiw > >server icecast 1.3.7 / ices 0.0.1beta5 > >server on a dsl line (384kbps) > >client on a LAN separate to it going through several hops > >winamp has the drop client problems. And recently another weird problem, >it spawns with only one channel balance way over to the right. this can >suck if your windows has no balance control for its audio! > >sonique: stays connected for hours and hours > >xmms/unix . stays connected for days > >winamp sucks the llamas dick, i like its user interface a lot better than >sonique, but sonique is definitely more functional. under winduhs. which >unfortunately is my only option from work ....I just say I have to agree here.. :) If sonique could source streams, and didn't have such a "hip" interface, I'd use it. If I had the time, I'd try and come up with a plugin to source streams from one of the other tools like sonique or freeamp.. but there are a lot of things I'd do if I had the time. ;) -------signature file------- PGP Key Fingerprint: 446B 7718 B219 9F1E 43DD 8E4A 6BE9 D739 CCC5 7FD7 "I don't think [Linux] will be very successful in the long run." "My experience and some of my friends' experience is that Linux is quite unreliable. Microsoft is really unreliable but Linux is worse." -Ken Thompson, Interview May 1999. http://www.freebsd.org FreeBSD - The Power to Serve http://www.rfnj.org Radio Free New Jersey - 375 streams - 96kbps @ 44.1khz http://namespace.org -- http://name.space Resist the ICANN! Support name.space! --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.