Andreas Gunzenhauser
2001-Nov-04 16:12 UTC
[icecast] how many streams can icecast handle ?
hi everyone For my diploma work on streaming music, I'm looking into cost of handling a large amount of users. Somehow I couldnt find some experience on the net about how many concurrent streams a single box could handle using icecast (without encoding, just the streaming of pre-encoded mp3-files). Does anybody have some experience that I could include as a reference point ? Thanks ! Andrew --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
The simple answer is: way more than your Internet connection will support :-) The server consumes very little in the way of resources. Your outgoing bandwidth will almost certainly be the limiting factor. Just divide your available bandwidth by the bitrate of your stream (& lop off about 5% of that number for overhead & a safety margin) . Example: a T1 line = 1.54 mbps = 1540 kbps / 24kbps (stream bitrate) = 64 streams So a T-1 line can support 64 24kbps streams (in theory). In practice, about 60 -bg> hi everyone > > For my diploma work on streaming music, I'm looking into > cost of handling a large amount of users. > > Somehow I couldnt find some experience on the net about > how many concurrent streams a single box could handle > using icecast (without encoding, just the streaming > of pre-encoded mp3-files). > > Does anybody have some experience that I could include > as a reference point ? > > Thanks ! > > Andrew > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to'icecast-request at xiph.org'> containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Andreas Gunzenhauser
2004-Aug-06 14:22 UTC
AW: [icecast] how many streams can icecast handle ?
Thanks Bill ! I see ;-) soo cpu power is not the bottleneck - but available bandwidth is. ok here's one scenario: lets say my provider here in Switzerland would connect me to his hosting center, which has the following bandwidths: - 155 Mbit ATM Network internally (so anyone logging on to the provider directly is not the problem, there should be enough bandwidth) - Peerings to other ISP's of - as he writes - 200 MBit -> so this should be enough for, let's say, 2000 streams Could one single machine handle that ? Or is my calculation at all wrong ? thanks, the information is most appreciated, as it's just 2 weeks until I have to hand in my diploma work ;-) best regrads andrew> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: owner-icecast@xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast@xiph.org]Im Auftrag > von William Goldsmith > Gesendet: Sonntag, 4. November 2001 17:35 > An: icecast@xiph.org > Betreff: Re: [icecast] how many streams can icecast handle ? > > > The simple answer is: way more than your Internet connection > will support > :-) > > The server consumes very little in the way of resources. Your outgoing > bandwidth will almost certainly be the limiting factor. Just > divide your > available bandwidth by the bitrate of your stream (& lop off > about 5% of > that number for overhead & a safety margin) . > > Example: a T1 line = 1.54 mbps = 1540 kbps / 24kbps (stream > bitrate) = 64 > streams > > So a T-1 line can support 64 24kbps streams (in theory). In > practice, about > 60 > > -bg > > > > hi everyone > > > > For my diploma work on streaming music, I'm looking into > > cost of handling a large amount of users. > > > > Somehow I couldnt find some experience on the net about > > how many concurrent streams a single box could handle > > using icecast (without encoding, just the streaming > > of pre-encoded mp3-files). > > > > Does anybody have some experience that I could include > > as a reference point ? > > > > Thanks ! > > > > Andrew > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request@xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No > subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request@xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No > subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. >--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Hey all, I'm running an icecast server (latest version) and providing streams to it via ices (latest version). Myself and many others have no trouble whatsoever connecting to the streams and listening indefinitely. There are a good number of people that have tried and tried to connect but either get constant drops and/or cannot connect at all. The only thing I could attribute it to was the possible problems with streaming the meta data. At first I had "use_meta_data 1" in the icecast config, changed it to "use_meta_data 0" to some good effect I believe as at least one person said his problem ceased immediately after that. At some point I just removed the "use_meta_data" line entirely. I'm not entirely sure how to ensure no meta data whatsoever is used. At this point clients still receive the station name, the URL and the song title (actually just the file name I believe-though at times it still seems to pick up additional information). I wouldn't be surprised if some of the connecting people are just clueless. You'll have that, but some of them I know personally and have been giving them all sorts of things to try in order to connect. The people that I trust for valid feedback are able to connect to several other streaming mp3 stations (not hosted on my machine) and use a variety of clients (winamp/itunes/etc.). I didn't see a way to disable throttling so I cranked it up beyond that of my actual bandwidth. I have plenty of unused bandwidth. That should not be an issue (and the people that can connect never have drops or any issues). Any particular information I should be collecting from the clients having the issues and/or anything that strikes anyone right off about any server config issues I may be having? Happy to provide additional details if needed. Thanks, Mike --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
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