Hello, At Sourcefabric we are testing Opus streams from the Airtime broadcast automation system via Icecast 2.4-beta. Other developers in our community are testing video streaming with Theora. We would like to make it easier for our users to try this Icecast beta themselves. Would it be premature for us to release a backported .deb package of icecast 2.4-beta for Debian and Ubuntu, or would the additional feedback from our community be welcome? We would of course make it very clear that this package would not yet be recommended for production use, and as such it would not go into our official repository until the code was declared stable by the Icecast team. A possible alternative would be for us to provide an Icecast 2.4-beta demo server that our community could use for test streams. Cheers! Daniel
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 03/28/2013 12:14 PM, Daniel James wrote:> Hello, > > At Sourcefabric we are testing Opus streams from the Airtime > broadcast automation system via Icecast 2.4-beta.Hello daniel why i can?t get Airtime to work on my .local machine (ubuntu 12.1 ) or my webserver running Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS i have allways DPKG errors on both machine and i tryed several times. Happy easter - -- - -- Les enfants terribles / Marc Manthey 50823 K?ln, germany Vogelsangerstr.97 Phone: 0049-221-29891489 Mobile : 0049-1577-3329231 Website: https://let.de Twitter: https://twitter.com/macbroadcast Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/opencu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRVDAkAAoJEBGMpRlqXiNfbTgH/jDIylIrpIoOkLQjg0uTxFMi 1MV+xz2u3Ik4Q7B5zuG63e1wGif1Lp7AW8OnsTXURz+eHFyeNMHVATVkS22Gll02 Jegfps17LmbvvG9P6xFTe+iVAc6rnoGPmJQyyNc6HAC1IZiBWQduJOM6unc0rW+f +Qbrcb1thPd3/roAlxMeO+f3yDi7OKMp11OruXEg3bWtMPpoUu0KDfQ5oPRQZnC6 5MM84fU7vNM6orqgczhLqZE75XwQaqJ9edyO8xa2/JO5WvWBHXiB8d+4sEmzoYWy MNURAXAw8ANpy/rL/cw8q4LyT4K6z4fEGj/d1b+ZzArBYo2evotvn5L+bgwK4Ng=V3SS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Hi Marc,> why i can?t get Airtime to work on my .local machine (ubuntu 12.1 ) > or my webserver running Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS i have allways DPKG errors > on both machine and i tryed several times.If you are using dpkg you probably have dependencies missing. Do you have the Sourcefabric apt repository set up? http://en.flossmanuals.net/airtime-en-2-3/automated-installation/ If you have any other trouble, please mail me offlist, as this is getting off-topic for icecast-dev. Cheers! Daniel
Hi Daniel, On 03/28/2013 11:14 AM, Daniel James wrote:> Hello, > > At Sourcefabric we are testing Opus streams from the Airtime broadcast > automation system via Icecast 2.4-beta. Other developers in our > community are testing video streaming with Theora. We would like to make > it easier for our users to try this Icecast beta themselves.That is sadly a typical problem with most distributions. I wonder what would be a good way to handle this gracefully.> Would it be premature for us to release a backported .deb package of > icecast 2.4-beta for Debian and Ubuntu, or would the additional feedback > from our community be welcome? > > We would of course make it very clear that this package would not yet be > recommended for production use, and as such it would not go into our > official repository until the code was declared stable by the Icecast team.My preferred approach would be to explain how to merge the debian packaging with a more recent tar-ball and rebuild a package out of this. I actually plan to include that on icecast.org, alongside a similar description for Fedora/RHEL/Centos. I do realize that this necessitates additional steps that might be error prone. So a PPA approach might be easier for interested parties. When it comes to the 2.4 beta I actually made the conscious decision to version it so that no extensions to the version number itself are necessary to ensure a clean upgrade path. Beta1 is 2.3.99.0> A possible alternative would be for us to provide an Icecast 2.4-beta > demo server that our community could use for test streams.Well that's something in your decision scope that I can't comment on. ;-) Hope that helps? I welcome further discussion about this topic! Cheers Thomas Icecast maintainer
Hi Thomas,> My preferred approach would be to explain how to merge the debian > packaging with a more recent tar-ball and rebuild a package out of this.We can provide a wiki page on that, sure, although we would probably go one step further and actually provide the packages for our target distros too (Debian stable/testing and Ubuntu 10.04/12.04 LTS).> a PPA approach might be easier for interested parties.We provide apt.sourcefabric.org which is not a PPA as such, it's a regular apt repo.> When it comes to the 2.4 beta I actually made the conscious decision to > version it so that no extensions to the version number itself are > necessary to ensure a clean upgrade path.We usually handle that by including ~ in the suffix of the deb version number, which makes the version subordinate to any official Debian/Ubuntu release later. For example: liquidsoap_1.1.0~wheezy~sfo-1_amd64.deb counts as older than: liquidsoap_1.1.0-1_amd64.deb for upgrade purposes.> Beta1 is 2.3.99.0Is a beta2 on the horizon? Or are there fixes since beta1 we should include as patches?>> > A possible alternative would be for us to provide an Icecast 2.4-beta >> > demo server that our community could use for test streams.> Well that's something in your decision scope that I can't comment on. ;-)Would it be generally useful to the Icecast community to have a 2.4 test server available? Or do people generally have spare machines to use for this? Cheers! Daniel