Apologies if this is the wrong mailing list but no list in particular seems appropriate. I was disappointed to discover in the 9.2-RC's that ntpd was still 4.2.4p8. I notice that that same (legacy) ntpd version is in stable/10 and, presumably, likely to end up in the new 10.0 release; so I thought I should speak up in the hope that it is not yet too late for the current ntpd stable release to be included. 2006-12-28 ntpd 4.2.4 released 2008-08-21 ntpd 4.2.4p5 released 2008-08-23 FreeBSD imports ntpd 4.2.4p5 to head 2009-01-04 FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE (with ntpd 4.2.4p5) 2009-05-04 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE (with ntpd 4.2.4p5) 2009-11-25 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE (with ntpd 4.2.4p5) 2009-12-08 ntpd 4.2.4p8 released 2009-12-12 ntpd 4.2.6 released 2009-12-16 FreeBSD imports ntpd 4.2.4p8 to head 2010-03-23 FreeBSD 7.3-RELEASE (with ntpd 4.2.4p5) 2010-07-23 FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE (with ntpd 4.2.4p5) 2011-02-24 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE (with ntpd 4.2.4p5) 2011-02-24 FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE (with ntpd 4.2.4p5) 2011-12-24 ntpd 4.2.6p5 released <------------- current ntpd STABLE 2012-01-10 FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE (with ntpd 4.2.4p8) 2012-04-18 FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE (with ntpd 4.2.4p5) 2012-12-30 FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE (with ntpd 4.2.4p8) 2013-06-09 FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE (with ntpd 4.2.4p5) 2013-09-30 FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE (with ntpd 4.2.4p8) [soon] FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE (still with ntpd 4.2.4p8?) rwpc15> cd /usr/src && svn cat ^/stable/10/contrib/ntp/version.m4 m4_define([VERSION_NUMBER],[4.2.4p8]) The version of ntp in FreeBSD has been 'legacy' since December 2009 (almost 4 years ago). Is there a technical reason why we are stuck at 4.2.4 or is it simply lack of volunteer resources? Perhaps ntp (and some of the other imported software in the base) is just not on anybody's RADAR? I know I can "use the port" if I want a current version of ntp, but I can't see the point of shipping superseded stuff in the base without good reason. Would it be asking to much for re@ to include, as part of its release planning, a review of just how current the vendor imports are? Perhaps this is already part of the process? Thank you for listening :-) -- John Marshall -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 196 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/attachments/20131028/82f65835/attachment.sig>
On Oct 28, 2013, at 00:20, John Marshall <john.marshall at riverwillow.com.au> wrote:> The version of ntp in FreeBSD has been 'legacy' since December 2009 > (almost 4 years ago). Is there a technical reason why we are stuck at > 4.2.4 or is it simply lack of volunteer resources? Perhaps ntp (and > some of the other imported software in the base) is just not on > anybody's RADAR? I know I can "use the port" if I want a current > version of ntp, but I can't see the point of shipping superseded stuff > in the base without good reason.Given the lack of response, it looks like new features and new imports may be better directed at freebsd-current at . For your specific question: FreeBSD is a mostly-volunteer project, with some corporate sponsorship. It looks like no one is willing to volunteer their time on a new version of NTP, and no company is willing to pay someone to look into it. Going to the NTP software, the most recent version that is called "production" is 4.2.6p5 from 2011-12-24, which isn't that much newer than what's currently there: http://www.ntp.org/downloads.html http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Main/SoftwareDownloads As it stands, the last person to really touch the NTP code in FreeBSD is roberto@, and that was three years ago: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/contrib/ntp/ http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/vendor/ntp/ Unless you're willing to submit patches, he may be your best starting point to see if he's willing to pick up the torch again. -- David Magda