Yesterday I have gotten lenovo e320 laptop, with core i3 2350 and HD3000 integrated. Gonna wait few days till 9.1 release. I never used anything aside "intel" on my old laptop. Kostik Belousov made a port of kms and I found patches from june and jule on the net. What should I do after 9.1 install in this case? I assume kms is in xorg. Do I have to find and install some driver from intel? Do I need to change xorg.conf after configure flag, that will make conf file? Finally, what happens when I leave x and want to go back to console mode? I tried out live RC2 from usb stick. Few acpi errors, intel 1000 wifi found. After some time "sysctl hw.acpi" gave me the cpu temperature of 50C. Fan was on. Probably temp gonna go down when I add powerd and cx_lowest to rc.conf on hdd. Is it normal temp for this cpu? Best regards all Zoran
On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 06:14:08AM +0200, Zoran Kolic wrote:> Yesterday I have gotten lenovo e320 laptop, with core i3 2350 > and HD3000 integrated. Gonna wait few days till 9.1 release. > I never used anything aside "intel" on my old laptop. Kostik > Belousov made a port of kms and I found patches from june and > jule on the net. What should I do after 9.1 install in this > case? I assume kms is in xorg. Do I have to find and install > some driver from intel? Do I need to change xorg.conf after > configure flag, that will make conf file?The i915kms driver is in the 9-STABLE branch, I am not 100% certain if it is what will be 9.1-RELEASE.> Finally, what happens when I leave x and want to go back to > console mode?Currently, you cannot go back to console once i915kms is loaded.> I tried out live RC2 from usb stick. Few acpi errors, intel > 1000 wifi found. After some time "sysctl hw.acpi" gave me the > cpu temperature of 50C. Fan was on. Probably temp gonna go > down when I add powerd and cx_lowest to rc.conf on hdd. Is > it normal temp for this cpu?Yes. Glen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 488 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/attachments/20121020/fe7480e9/attachment.sig>
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Zoran Kolic <zkolic at sbb.rs> wrote:> Yesterday I have gotten lenovo e320 laptop, with core i3 2350 > and HD3000 integrated. Gonna wait few days till 9.1 release. > I never used anything aside "intel" on my old laptop. Kostik > Belousov made a port of kms and I found patches from june and > jule on the net. What should I do after 9.1 install in this > case? I assume kms is in xorg. Do I have to find and install > some driver from intel? Do I need to change xorg.conf after > configure flag, that will make conf file?Full support for the HD3000 is in 9-stable and 9.1-Beta and all RCs. To use it you need to build X drivers and drm and the kernel with: WITH_NEW_XORG=YES WITH_KMS=YES in /etc/make.conf. Specifically, the kernel and a few ports. graphics/drm and your org-drivers: xf86-video-intel, xf86-input-synaptics, xf86-input-mouse, and xf86-input-keyboard. Then just start X. Don't try loading the kernel module. It will be loaded by the startx.> Finally, what happens when I leave x and want to go back to > console mode?You don't If you try, your system will lock up. You need to shutdown from a window in X. Hopefully someone will implement switching back to console mode some day, but it has not happened, yet.> I tried out live RC2 from usb stick. Few acpi errors, intel > 1000 wifi found. After some time "sysctl hw.acpi" gave me the > cpu temperature of 50C. Fan was on. Probably temp gonna go > down when I add powerd and cx_lowest to rc.conf on hdd. Is > it normal temp for this cpu?Pretty reasonable. Be sure to set both cx_lowest to "Cmax". It is new to 9.1 and fixes some serious issues with C-states on many newer platforms. Specifically that some platforms skip some C-states and FreeBSD never used the ones saving more power than hte one skipped. I always remind folks to blow out the heat sink on laptops about one a year. Dust is a great insulator and laptops often collect a lot more dust than office systems, though my office system started dying during buildworld last week and blowing out the CPU heat sink fixed it up, but it had been sitting around for almost three years collecting dust. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer E-mail: kob6558 at gmail.com
Hi, On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 06:14:08 +0200 Zoran Kolic <zkolic at sbb.rs> wrote:> Yesterday I have gotten lenovo e320 laptop, with core i3 2350 > and HD3000 integrated. Gonna wait few days till 9.1 release.there shouldn't be many changes between RC2 and the final release version. You can always update later.> I never used anything aside "intel" on my old laptop. Kostik > Belousov made a port of kms and I found patches from june and > jule on the net. What should I do after 9.1 install in this > case? I assume kms is in xorg. Do I have to find and installYou should not need the patches anymore for 9.x and 10.x.> some driver from intel? Do I need to change xorg.conf after > configure flag, that will make conf file?I have had to do but this is some time ago.> Finally, what happens when I leave x and want to go back to > console mode?It might crashes your system. You are not able to go back to X and you only see a black screen. This is not an error but a feature. Fun aside, this function was not implemented yet.> I tried out live RC2 from usb stick. Few acpi errors, intelThe ACPI errors might depend on your BIOS. I get an endless number of ACPI errors during running X but they do not show any effect on my machine.> 1000 wifi found. After some time "sysctl hw.acpi" gave me the > cpu temperature of 50C. Fan was on. Probably temp gonna go > down when I add powerd and cx_lowest to rc.conf on hdd. Is > it normal temp for this cpu?50 degrees? Seems pretty low. My i7 goes up to 96 under full load. As the CPU is made for 100 and I am in the tropics, I do not care much. This should be true for your CPU too. Erich
Hi, On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 23:29:28 -0700 Kevin Oberman <kob6558 at gmail.com> wrote:> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Zoran Kolic <zkolic at sbb.rs> wrote: > > I always remind folks to blow out the heat sink on laptops about one a > year. Dust is a great insulator and laptops often collect a lot moreI never did this on a laptop as all of mine where build in a way that dust could not collect. So, it depends very much on the model.> dust than office systems, though my office system started dying during > buildworld last week and blowing out the CPU heat sink fixed it up, > but it had been sitting around for almost three years collecting dust.I do this every year on my desktop. The temperature drops then by 10K. You can use the CPU temperature as an indicator when a cleaning is needed. But blowing does not work on my machine. I really have to take screw driver and tweezers to get the work finally done. Erich
> Full support for the HD3000 is in 9-stable and 9.1-Beta and all RCs. > To use it you need to build X drivers and drm and the kernel with: > WITH_NEW_XORG=YES > WITH_KMS=YES > in /etc/make.conf.> Specifically, the kernel and a few ports. graphics/drm and your > org-drivers: xf86-video-intel, xf86-input-synaptics, xf86-input-mouse, > and xf86-input-keyboard. Then just start X. Don't try loading the > kernel module. It will be loaded by the startx.> > Finally, what happens when I leave x and want to go back to > > console mode?> You don't If you try, your system will lock up. You need to shutdown > from a window in X. Hopefully someone will implement switching back to > console mode some day, but it has not happened, yet.How do you shutdown from a window in X if you're nonroot? Can you have both root and nonroot windows simultaneously in X? Tom
Normally I start X by startx which may be followed by an initialization file, so I don't get the default spartan default twm all the time. In Linux and FreeBSD, I generally use X as nonroot. So I don't really know how to start a program such as xterm as another user or how to have both root and nonroot windows in X. On trying to exit X with the KMS driver in FreeBSD, I never got that far, however I'm having snags in updating my ports, am at an impasse now, got Error 70 in the latest case and don't know what that means. But I have experience typing in the dark in NetBSD, not all X-related, and have successfully typed "shutdown -r now" with nothing showing on the screen. Tom
> AFAIC Matthew Seaman already gave you a wonderful suggestion to add > yourself to the group "operator" and just use the command "shutdown" > with your own rights only. Did you try this suggestion?Actually, it is wheel group. To me it is "normal" to read mail and do something mundane in console, to startx for browsing things that cannot be seen pro- perly in lynx, to go back to console when done. I found no harm su-ing in graphics and doing root work, like write to usb stick or else. Eye catching is to use console in public, but... Best regards Zoran