Hi all I'm disappointed by the stablity of FreeBSD 6-stable (I known it's developpement branche). I'm using FreeBSD from 3.4 and using regulary 5-stable in production. Now on my central server (nfs server) I make big update, and running 6-stable from 02/2006. From this date until today I've 4 or 5 big crash (the network interface just disapper (with watchdog message). But when I'm using 4.x I have zero crash during 3.5 years. And on my other servers (~ 15 ) running FreeBSD I never have so many crash, event on student's servers. I've send a message on this mailing-list. Now I follow the advise and today (after new crash) I'm running with polling on my network interface. I've already see some other users to have same problem. Maybe it's very hard to developper to fix this problem because I can't reproduce, just after 10-15 days the server crash. Sometime I don't have any prompt on the console, sometime I can make a clean reboot. But IMHO (please don't shoot me) fix this kind of problem is very very important and more more important to have some wifi device. If I going to www.freebsd.org I see FreeBSD power to serve and for ?serve? we (sysadmin like me) need network interface. Personnaly I'm very sad to can't help anyone, I'm just user (sysadmin on Educational environnement) and I'm not developper (The more complexe "software" I ever made is....hello_world.c). Thanks for all developpers. Regards. -- Albert SHIH Universite de Paris 7 (Denis DIDEROT) U.F.R. de Mathematiques. 7 i?me ?tage, plateau D, bureau 10 Heure local/Local time: Wed Apr 5 21:49:37 CEST 2006
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 10:03:41PM +0200, Albert Shih wrote:> Hi all > > I'm disappointed by the stablity of FreeBSD 6-stable (I known it's > developpement branche).You forgot to provide pointers to your PRs. Kris -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/attachments/20060405/7f143213/attachment.pgp
Sorry, forgot to add the list into CC... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dennis Melentyev <dennis.melentyev@gmail.com> Date: 06.04.2006 16:12 Subject: Re: Disappointed To: Alexey Karagodov <karagodov@gmail.com> Alexey, 2006/4/6, Alexey Karagodov <karagodov@gmail.com>:> hi. > i think, this unstablity happaning just because developers trying to make > two systems at one time, one is 6.0 and another 7.0 current and they > supporting old version, lower then 6.0 > i want to ask developers, why you developing new system, 7.0, if you don't > finish old, 6.0 ?! > finish 6.0, make it work, and upgrade it to 7.0 and to 8.0 and to 9.0 and > so > on ... > what so new and revolutionary in 7.0 in comparison with 6.0 ?! > to use your system i must be a DEVELOPER, but i don't have so much time! i >'Must' is a toooo strong word. If they wish - they will. If you need you have two options: do it yourself or pay some money to someone who can. Period. Or have you paid them for that? :) Just don't use any system in production without having it tested first. This world is not perfect, and software is way less perfect than world. :) don't want to develope! i want to use, i want to help you with some advise (> e.g. what feature to add, what feature to change etc), i can and i want to > share some of my hardware to feet your needs, make a mirror, make a test > server/workstation/notebook/PDA etc. i'm not an freebsd developer. i'm > justThat's great! That's your contribution to the project. Every one here contribute whatever they can: money, hardware, code, PR, support. But no one can say what someone must to do. PS. ??? ????? -- Dennis Melentyev -- Dennis Melentyev