The release schedule for FreeBSD 6.0, on the FreeBSD Web site, doesn't show a projected date for the finished product. How close is it? We are (believe it or not) still running and building production servers with 4.11, and would love to move to 6.0 (at least for uniprocessor systems; we may wait for 6.1 for SMP) if it is sufficiently stable and performs adequately. We're running our own tests on RC1, but don't have a lot of spare servers to try it on. So, it's worth asking: How stable is RC1 turning out to be on uniprocessor platforms? On SMP platforms? How is network and disk performance relative to 4.11? (When we tested 5.x, both network and file system performance were worse than that of 4.11.) With what known problems is 6.0 likely to ship, and of these which are likely to impact uniprocessor systems? Are any "showstopper" bugs merely being worked around for release? And, again, when is the likely release date? --Brett Glass
On Saturday 15 October 2005 04:46 pm, Brett Glass wrote:> With what known problems > is 6.0 likely to ship, and of these which are likely to impact uniprocessor > systems? Are any "showstopper" bugs merely being worked around for release?http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.0R/todo.html Linked to from the schedule page... -David -- "What's the good of having mastery over cosmic balance and knowing the secrets of fate if you can't blow something up?" -Terry Pratchett
"Brett Glass" <brett@lariat.net> wrote in message news:200510152346.RAA20742@lariat.net...> The release schedule for FreeBSD 6.0, on the FreeBSD Web site, > doesn't show a > projected date for the finished product. How close is it? We are > (believe it > or not) still running and building production servers with 4.11, and > would > love to move to 6.0 (at least for uniprocessor systems; we may wait > for 6.1 > for SMP) if it is sufficiently stable and performs adequately. > > We're running our own tests on RC1, but don't have a lot of spare > servers to > try it on. So, it's worth asking: How stable is RC1 turning out to > be on > uniprocessor platforms? On SMP platforms? How is network and disk > performance > relative to 4.11? (When we tested 5.x, both network and file system > performance were worse than that of 4.11.) With what known problems > is 6.0 > likely to ship, and of these which are likely to impact uniprocessor > systems? > Are any "showstopper" bugs merely being worked around for release? > And, again, > when is the likely release date? > > --Brett GlassWelp, it's in the RC stage, and I've not seen any reports of massive issues, so I imagine they'll move it through fairly quickly. For what it's worth, on UP, my 386 (stop laughing) is showing twice the inbound and outbound tcp throughput across multiple apps compared to 4.11. Disk throughput is slightly higher, but nothing super impressive. If 6.0 can show gains on a 386, that tells me there is some actual merit to the changes. Joshua Coombs
Brett Glass <brett@lariat.net> wrote:
> The release schedule for FreeBSD 6.0, on the FreeBSD Web site, doesn't
show a
> projected date for the finished product. How close is it?
I can't speak for the RE team, but from watching the BETA
and RC progress and reports in the mailing lists ... my
guess is that 6.0-RELEASE will be out very soon. Maybe in
only a few days.
> We are (believe it
> or not) still running and building production servers with 4.11,
Same here.
> We're running our own tests on RC1, but don't have a lot of spare
servers to
> try it on. So, it's worth asking: How stable is RC1 turning out to be
on
> uniprocessor platforms? On SMP platforms? How is network and disk
performance
> relative to 4.11? (When we tested 5.x, both network and file system
> performance were worse than that of 4.11.)
FWIW, I'm running RELENG_6 on two machines (a notebook and
a server) for several weeks, updating every few days, and
putting some workload and various testing on them. So far
I have not encountered any serious problems that were not
resolved. So, stability seems to be very good; my feeling
is that 6.0 will be a _lot_ better than 5.0. A _lot_.
About performance: It seems to be a little slower than
RELENG_4 on my test machines (which are UP). It's not much
slower, but noticeable. (Yes, I know about INVARIANTS,
WITNESS and malloc.conf, those are not the cause.)
Best regards
Oliver
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At 07:46 PM 15/10/2005, Brett Glass wrote:>The release schedule for FreeBSD 6.0, on the FreeBSD Web site, doesn't show a >projected date for the finished product. How close is it?My guess, very soon. But for me, RELENG_6 has been small 's' stable for some time. Got with 6.0R when it comes out.>We're running our own tests on RC1, but don't have a lot of spare servers to >try it on. So, it's worth asking: How stable is RC1 turning out to be on >uniprocessor platforms?Very. We have our inbound mail servers running RELENG_6 in UP boxes. Have several spamscanners running clamav and SpamAssassin processing millions of messages. Works as expected> On SMP platforms? How is network and disk performance >relative to 4.11?Two of our scanners in the cluster are SMP boxes-- dual core AMD running in 386 mode and an Intel D830. Both work really well, and take quite a load against them network / cpu wise. Lots of threads running. Also have FAST_IPSEC clients and a server running RELENG_6 from around Beta 1.>performance were worse than that of 4.11.) With what known problems is 6.0 >likely to ship, and of these which are likely to impact uniprocessor systems? >Are any "showstopper" bugs merely being worked around for release?There are always bugs... Even RELENG_4 has them, but the question to ask is how common are they and will they impact the hardware you use. I have mostly Intel ICH5-7 boxes, an Intel 6300ESB, and one ATI based board (AMD64) running IDE drives, an ARECA Sata RAID card and numerous 3ware based cards. All work really well. There are some open PRs (some with patches / fixes even) that I have to work around, but most people wont run into them. ---Mike