Hi .. i''ve been using lazydocs for quite some time now and it''s a real pleasure working with them.. you should definately use them.. http://ferret.davebalmain.com/api/classes/Ferret/Index/LazyDoc.html my implementation: http://blog.omdb-beta.org/2006/12/12/lazydocs-and-database-objects as far as i know, Jens wanted to implement them in acts_as_ferret as well :-) Ben