Ferret talk - Oct 2006 - Luke does not work with Ferret indexes?

Hey,

Luke doesn''t seem to be able to open a Ferret index I''ve
created.  Is
this expected?

If yes, can someone recommend another index inspection tool?

Thanks,
John

Ferret indexes from version 0.10 are not compatible with Luke.
I don''t know of any compatible tool right now.

John Clayton wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> Luke doesn''t seem to be able to open a Ferret index I''ve
created.  Is
> this expected?
> 
> If yes, can someone recommend another index inspection tool?
> 
> Thanks,
> John

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On 10/7/06, John Clayton <john at fivesquaresoftware.com>
wrote:
> Hey,
>
> Luke doesn''t seem to be able to open a Ferret index I''ve
created.  Is
> this expected?
>
> If yes, can someone recommend another index inspection tool?
>
> Thanks,
> John
Yes, that is expected. Jens Kraemer implemented an inspection tool a
while back except it doesn''t work with the latest version of Ferret.
It is based on GTK. I played with it a bit earlier this week and got
it to work with the latest version of Ferret''s indexes but it still
needs a little more testing. I''m also concerned about the portability
of this solution. It won''t work on OS X without X server installed. I
looked at a few of the other gui options briefly but I still haven''t
decided on the best option. These were my first impressions but please
feel free to correct me. I won''t be offended.

* Tk: very portable but some of the widgets I really wanted where
missing like tabbed panes. A lot of people seem to complain about it
being ugly I think you can fix this by installing the Tile theming
engine for Tk.

* QtRuby: We''d need to use Qt4 because of licencing issues on Windows.
I had trouble even installing Qt4 which doesn''t bode well for it and
there is currently no binary gem for windows. I don''t want to deal
with that problem again. Other than that, QtRuby looks really nice.

* WxRuby: Again no binary gem but it has the widgets I need and it
looks pretty good because it uses native widgets. I couldn''t really
find my way around the documentation though. I wanted to quick
tutorial to show me how everything works.

* FLTK: There are bindings for this in Ruby but I actually found it
easy to use FLTK straight from C. I quite liked this solution because
FLTK is light enough that I could possibly package FLTK up in the
package. Also, FLUID is a great GUI builder.

Anyway, I only looked at each of these GUIs briefly. What do other
people think an inspection tool should be built with?

Cheers,
Dave

What about the even more obvious idea of creating a Rails front-end  
to Ferret indexes?  That''d be portable, and easy enough for someone  
to install (and could come in handy remotely against an index on a  
server too).

	Erik


On Oct 7, 2006, at 12:01 AM, David Balmain wrote:
> On 10/7/06, John Clayton <john at fivesquaresoftware.com> wrote:
>> Hey,
>>
>> Luke doesn''t seem to be able to open a Ferret index
I''ve created.  Is
>> this expected?
>>
>> If yes, can someone recommend another index inspection tool?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John
>
> Yes, that is expected. Jens Kraemer implemented an inspection tool a
> while back except it doesn''t work with the latest version of
Ferret.
> It is based on GTK. I played with it a bit earlier this week and got
> it to work with the latest version of Ferret''s indexes but it
still
> needs a little more testing. I''m also concerned about the
portability
> of this solution. It won''t work on OS X without X server
installed. I
> looked at a few of the other gui options briefly but I still
haven''t
> decided on the best option. These were my first impressions but please
> feel free to correct me. I won''t be offended.
>
> * Tk: very portable but some of the widgets I really wanted where
> missing like tabbed panes. A lot of people seem to complain about it
> being ugly I think you can fix this by installing the Tile theming
> engine for Tk.
>
> * QtRuby: We''d need to use Qt4 because of licencing issues on
Windows.
> I had trouble even installing Qt4 which doesn''t bode well for it
and
> there is currently no binary gem for windows. I don''t want to deal
> with that problem again. Other than that, QtRuby looks really nice.
>
> * WxRuby: Again no binary gem but it has the widgets I need and it
> looks pretty good because it uses native widgets. I couldn''t
really
> find my way around the documentation though. I wanted to quick
> tutorial to show me how everything works.
>
> * FLTK: There are bindings for this in Ruby but I actually found it
> easy to use FLTK straight from C. I quite liked this solution because
> FLTK is light enough that I could possibly package FLTK up in the
> package. Also, FLUID is a great GUI builder.
>
> Anyway, I only looked at each of these GUIs briefly. What do other
> people think an inspection tool should be built with?
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
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On 10/7/06, Erik Hatcher <erik at ehatchersolutions.com>
wrote:
> What about the even more obvious idea of creating a Rails front-end
> to Ferret indexes?  That''d be portable, and easy enough for
someone
> to install (and could come in handy remotely against an index on a
> server too).
>
>         Erik
>
Hey Erik, it''s been a while. I''ve actually been considering
this idea
since I sent my earlier email and your reply has convinced me that
it''s a good one. I was actually thinking Rails might be overkill for
this and just a simple webrick servlet might do the job fine. Maybe
I''m wrong. I''ve just got back into using Rails again this
week. It''s
been a while since I worked on a GUI of any kind. :P

Dave

On Oct 6, 2006, at 9:01 PM, David Balmain wrote:
> Anyway, I only looked at each of these GUIs briefly. What do other
> people think an inspection tool should be built with?
AJAX.

This is on my todo list.  But behind KinoSearch 0.20 and Lucy.

An AJAX version of Luke would be a major contribution to the Lucene  
community, because it could be adapted easily to work with any of the  
different ports regardless of file format discrepancies.

Marvin Humphrey
Rectangular Research
http://www.rectangular.com/

>
> AJAX.
>
> This is on my todo list.  But behind KinoSearch 0.20 and Lucy.
>
> An AJAX version of Luke would be a major contribution to the Lucene
> community, because it could be adapted easily to work with any of the
> different ports regardless of file format discrepancies.

Rails with its great integration of prototype and scriptaculous looks like a
perfect fit in this regard too.

Cheers,
Jan
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Marvin Humphrey schrieb:
>>Anyway, I only looked at each of these GUIs briefly. What do other
>>people think an inspection tool should be built with?
>>    
>>
>
>AJAX.
>
>This is on my todo list.  But behind KinoSearch 0.20 and Lucy.
>  
>
An Ajax-Frontend to the Ferret-Index would be great.. yes. And I think 
this wouldn''t take that much time, if ferret allows me to get all the 
information i need to be displayed on the frontend. David, maybe we can 
work something out here?

Ben