dovecot - Oct 2020 - Looking for a guide to collect all e-mail from the ISP mail server

On 10/26/20 10:26 AM, Gregory Heytings wrote:
> I too would strongly advise you to use Google Workspace (the recent new 
> name for G Suite, previously known as Google Apps).? It's cheap, very 
> reliable, and has all features you can dream of, including an 
> autoresponder.? It's unrealistic to think that it's possible to
beat a
> service that costs a mere USD 6 / user / month (and is free for 
> nonprofits!).
   You're advocating storing confidential business or personal data on 
the servers of the world's largest data mining company, and one that is 
rapidly becoming quite evil.

   It's hard to imagine anyone being that dumb, but then this society 
has been surprising me a lot in recent years.

            -Dave

-- 
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

>  It's hard to imagine anyone being that dumb, but then this society 
has been surprising me a lot in recent years.

If I tell some woman in the store that she is about to buy an energy 
drink promoted by/having a picture of a convicted rapist. They look at 
me weird and the most stupid response I got was 'but I am not buying it 
for myself'.

>> I too would strongly advise you to use Google Workspace (the recent new
>> name for G Suite, previously known as Google Apps).? It's cheap,
very
>> reliable, and has all features you can dream of, including an 
>> autoresponder.? It's unrealistic to think that it's possible to
beat a
>> service that costs a mere USD 6 / user / month (and is free for 
>> nonprofits!).
>
> You're advocating
>
I'm not advocating, I give the OP an advice, which he is (and you are) 
free to ignore.
>
> storing confidential business or personal data on the servers of the 
> world's largest data mining company, and one that is rapidly becoming 
> quite evil.
>
That's nonsense.  I will give one example: Airbus, the European aerospace 
corporation, uses Google Workspace.  If there is one single company in the 
world that would have every possible reason to not store their 
"confidential business data" on the servers of an American company,
it's
Airbus.  Yet they do it.

On 10/26/20 11:09 AM, Gregory Heytings wrote:
>>> I too would strongly advise you to use Google Workspace (the recent
>>> new name for G Suite, previously known as Google Apps).? It's
cheap,
>>> very reliable, and has all features you can dream of, including an 
>>> autoresponder.? It's unrealistic to think that it's
possible to beat
>>> a service that costs a mere USD 6 / user / month (and is free for 
>>> nonprofits!).
>>
>> You're advocating
> 
> I'm not advocating, I give the OP an advice, which he is (and you are) 
> free to ignore.
   And now you're splitting hairs on terminology.  This suggests a 
particular approach to an disagreement, and is not doing you any good.
>> storing confidential business or personal data on the servers of the 
>> world's largest data mining company, and one that is rapidly
becoming
>> quite evil.
> 
> That's nonsense.? I will give one example: Airbus, the European 
> aerospace corporation, uses Google Workspace.? If there is one single 
> company in the world that would have every possible reason to not store 
> their "confidential business data" on the servers of an American 
> company, it's Airbus.? Yet they do it.
   I'm sure they do.  Are you now suggesting that mega-corporations only 
ever do things in the best or smartest way?

   I can point out examples of people and corporations doing stupid 
things all day long.  There are LOTS of examples, everywhere.  This 
doesn't mean they're not stupid.

   I'm sorry buddy, your credibility hit rock bottom in your first post, 
and your subsequent posts aren't helping.

   Have a nice day. *plonk*

              -Dave

-- 
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

On 10/26/20 11:07 AM, Marc Roos wrote:
> 
>   >  It's hard to imagine anyone being that dumb, but then this
society
> has been surprising me a lot in recent years.
> 
> If I tell some woman in the store that she is about to buy an energy
> drink promoted by/having a picture of a convicted rapist. They look at
> me weird and the most stupid response I got was 'but I am not buying it
> for myself'.
   coffee -> keyboard

-- 
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

> That's nonsense.  I will give one example: Airbus, the European 
aerospace corporation, uses Google Workspace.

What do they store there? That is the question, maybe some irrelevant 
data, I doubt if they store CAD drawings online or data that is 
protected by GDPR legislation.
And even when, are you going to burn books, when Airbus is going to burn 
books?